11:59 Aimee Weber is Online

12:03 Ruby Glitter is Online

12:03 Yaakov Sputnik: Hi there

12:04 Ruby Glitter: hey y'all!

12:04 Yaakov Sputnik: hey ruby!

12:04 Ruby Glitter: I added a bunch of possible topic to the schedule and have been posting this

12:04 Ruby Glitter: on blogs everyhere.

12:04 Boliver Oddfellow is Offline

12:04 Ruby Glitter: wow, did you see that?

12:04 Ruby Glitter: Our heads were up our asses!

12:05 Yaakov Sputnik: whoah, really? how appropriate!

12:05 Ruby Glitter: perhaps a consequence of the recent updates...

12:05 Yaakov Sputnik: hmmm.... maybe.... but not of the election results

12:05 Ruby Glitter: Oh, but sitting glitch is fixed!

12:05 Ruby Glitter: yay!

12:06 Yaakov Sputnik: but not the "facing in the wrong direction" glitch

12:06 Yaakov Sputnik: ho hum

12:07 Ruby Glitter: So, Ykov.

12:07 Ruby Glitter: thanks for coming.

12:07 Ruby Glitter: pardon us whiel we get shit together. ;-)

12:07 Yaakov Sputnik: you're welcome! luckily I drank too much while watching election coverage so will be skipping the gym and can attend!

12:07 Troy McLuhan is Offline

12:07 Ruby Glitter: yay, for slothful activists.

12:08 Yaakov Sputnik: lol... yes... being on the left of Atlanta's "Drinking Liberally" serves my liver well

12:09 Ruby Glitter: OK, I just reviewing our to do list...

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Let's wait to see if anyone else come before we start,

12:09 Ruby Glitter: but I think out topics will be:

12:09 Yaakov Sputnik: okay.... is this the beginning time, or is it an hour from now? I'm not good with PST

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Its starts in an hour.

12:10 Ruby Glitter: this is our organizational meeting.

12:10 Yaakov Sputnik: aha

12:10 Yaakov Sputnik: oh, I see

12:10 Ruby Glitter: 1. do "rules for rootscamp" apply here? what will our rules be? I'll post them over there.

12:10 You: Ruby, would Moose be interested in coming over do you think?

12:10 Ruby Glitter: 2. volunteet tasks.

12:10 Ruby Glitter: hey, now your head is up your ass as well!

12:11 Yaakov Sputnik: I actually should go attend to a couple of Real World things before the camp.... so will have to return at 4

12:11 Ruby Glitter: OK.

12:11 Yaakov Sputnik: cheers for now! and yay to Rummy resigining... the one good decision the man has made

12:11 Yaakov Sputnik: anyhoo, see you soon... bye!

12:12 Ruby Glitter: Hey, I was thinking of posting something along the line sof the Rules of rootscamp https://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/TheRulesOfRootsCamp but modified.

12:12 You: hi micah

12:13 Ruby Glitter: Hi Micah

12:13 Micah Cannned: Hello

12:13 Micah Cannned: Wow this is so strange.

12:13 Ruby Glitter: Is that Micah Sifry by any chance?

12:14 Micah Cannned: No Micah Canal I work w/ Ginny and Roz

12:14 Ruby Glitter: Oh, cool. Wel welcome.

12:14 Ruby Glitter: e're going ot be doing organizational stuff until 4pm EST.

12:14 Ruby Glitter: You are welcome to hang out, make suggestions, volunteer...

12:15 Micah Cannned: Nice, I actully am going over to NOI hq in the real world soon . I just wanted to see what this "camp" looked like. I have never used Seconed Life before.

12:16 Ruby Glitter: I'm glad you came by.

12:16 Ruby Glitter: Great.

12:16 Ruby Glitter: Are y'all going to log on from NOI?

12:16 Micah Cannned: Probubly not. I donthave my laptop. I'm on the PC here.

12:17 Ruby Glitter: Aw.

12:17 Ruby Glitter: Would you liek to lead a discussion her sometime this week about what NOI is doing?

12:18 Micah Cannned: I'm working on the DC Camp so maby if i have time.

12:18 Micah Cannned: nice to talk

12:18 Ruby Glitter: Please do.

12:18 You: Micah,

12:18 Ruby Glitter: You can do the same topics here, as a warm up. ;-)

12:19 You: if you could find someone from NOI who could speak at least here for 1 hour

12:19 You: one of the next 7 days that'd be fantastic.

12:19 Micah Cannned: I'll tak to Roz.

12:19 You: it's 4-6pm every day between now and next Tues, so lots of options

12:19 You: and as Ruby says, a good chance to "test" out som e ideas

12:19 You: for offline RootsCamps

12:20 Ruby Glitter: Hi Little.

12:20 Micah Cannned: Cool maby ill be back.

12:20 You: that's part of the point of running this here in SecondLife this week

12:20 Little Oto: hi ruby

12:20 You: Hi Little

12:20 Little Oto: hi drew

12:20 Little Oto: how are you two today?

12:20 Ruby Glitter: Thnanks for coming to the organizational meeting.

12:20 Ruby Glitter: Crazed, and you?

12:21 You: a bit busy! :)

12:21 You: but excited about a new country... :)

12:21 Little Oto: ya, that is pretty exciting

12:21 Moose Maine is Offline

12:21 Ruby Glitter: I'd like some radical change, but I dn't have my hopes up *too* much.

12:22 Little Oto: ya, true

12:22 Ruby Glitter: these are the same Dems who laid down and got rolled over fo rthe pat 6 years.

12:22 Ruby Glitter: But hopefully they wil relocate their spine now... ;-)

12:22 Ruby Glitter: Are you here to help with RootsCamp?

12:23 Little Oto: well, I didn't come with that in mind, but I'd be happy to help if I can

12:23 Little Oto: how's things shaping up for rootscamp sl?

12:23 Ruby Glitter: OK. well we are going ot be getting ready until 2 pm.

12:24 Rik Riel is Online

12:24 Ruby Glitter: You're welcome to help or just hang out.

12:24 Little Oto: well, if I can be useful, I'm all yours.

12:25 Ruby Glitter: Thanks.

12:25 Ruby Glitter: er,, sorry!

12:25 Ruby Glitter: yes.

12:25 Ruby Glitter: timezone confusion.

12:25 You: 1PM kickoff session...

12:26 You: so between now and then we need to get this place cleaned up

12:26 You: and establish procedures for running the session

12:27 You: Ruby, I've been thinking today's session would be largely soliciting input for the rest of the RootsCamp over the next week... Asking people for their session suggestions, asking people to spread the word, polling people on their thoughts on how best

12:27 You: to leverage SL for progressive politics over the next two years....

12:27 Ruby Glitter: I agree, Drew.

12:27 Ruby Glitter: I thikn we should also talk about process.

12:27 You: I have some ideas there

12:27 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

12:28 Ruby Glitter: You start. ;-)

12:28 You: I was thinking that we could run it like this:

12:28 You: 1) The session convener announces we're getting started and introduces the topic

12:28 You: or agenda

12:28 You: 2) the convener nominates a "secretary"

12:29 You: 3) secretary asks everyone present to say "yes" to chatlogging and snapshots and film clips

12:29 You: so that we can capture content from the session

12:29 You: and continues to ask ongoingly whenever a new person drops in

12:30 You: 4) secretary captures snapshots, chatlogs, film clips of the session and posts to the rootscampsl.org wiki

12:31 You: 5) convener and anyone else in the group who volunteers edits the posted content into useful content-- the "results" of the RootsCamp session, suitable for "publication" on blogs etc.

12:31 You: so we end up with a content product as well as social relationships and learning as the results of each RootsCamp session.

12:31 Ruby Glitter: Sounds great!

12:31 You: thoughts?

12:31 Ruby Glitter: I only have one suggestion:

12:32 Ruby Glitter: I'm concerned that asking person about chatlogging, etc when they arrive shoudl be disruptiove.

12:32 Ruby Glitter: What if they announce it at the beginning of every session and we can put a prminent sign up here that says "All sessions will be documented..." etc.

12:32 You: can do by private IM if necessary as long as you keep a record

12:33 Ruby Glitter: IM is OK, too

12:33 You: sure could put a sign too, but I think SL policies dictate that people say "yes"

12:33 Ruby Glitter: I just think it's good to state all the rules up front, so theer doesn't have ot be debste over them later.

12:33 You: Little, what's your level of expertise / experience as a resident of SL?

12:33 Little Oto: this is day 2 for me

12:33 You: yes, a sign with this process woudl be great

12:33 Ruby Glitter: I don't know about the official policies...

12:34 Little Oto: so i guess i'd say i'm 'not that experienced'

12:34 Little Oto: lol

12:34 Ruby Glitter: Fair enough.

12:34 You: more experienced than 1st Day! :)

12:34 Jimbo Perhaps is Online

12:34 Little Oto: :)

12:34 Ruby Glitter: On a related note, I was thinking posting the Rules of RootsCamp, but they need to be modified.

12:35 Ruby Glitter: We can make a notecard wiht the rules.

12:35 You: ok

12:35 You: and I think we should clean this place up a bit before 1pm.

12:35 You: (moving stools into a circle, etc.)

12:35 You: Ruby, any way to put the link to the schedule on a billboard rather than in a sphere?

12:36 You: with a static screenshot of that wiki page as the billboard image?

12:36 Ruby Glitter: a. what do you mean by a bill board?

12:36 You: a sign

12:36 Ruby Glitter: Sure I can do that.

12:36 You: I think the random shapes on the bench over there occur to new folks as a bit "odd"

12:36 Ruby Glitter: b. I put the seat this way on purpose, ;-) but I'm open to change.

12:36 Ruby Glitter: I'm afraid if there aren't 20 peopel ti will feel very empty. This way peopel can sit in small groups or be part of the whole.

12:37 Ruby Glitter: OK.

12:37 You: maybe a semi-circle?

12:37 Ruby Glitter: Shall I starndardize the shapes?

12:37 Ruby Glitter: I could put a picture on each one....

12:37 You: any way to make the tshirt pyramid a shirt shape?

12:37 You: or a box with a picture of a tshirt?

12:38 Ruby Glitter: Well I don'thave tiem to do both, but made the seats with all permissions so peopel could move them at will.

12:38 You: I'll move charirs

12:38 You: chairs

12:38 Ruby Glitter: No, but I can make it flat w/ a picture of a t-short shape.

12:38 Little Oto: i can help move seats, too

12:38 You: I think sign w/ screenshot of the schedule, clickable to the schedule wiki page is probably the most important

12:38 Ruby Glitter: OK.

12:39 You: would LOVE it if we could find an experienced SL designer to volunteer today to come in and make this place look really cool and political. :)

12:39 You: but for now let's do the best we can

12:39 Ruby Glitter: I'm not sure what you mean.

12:39 Ruby Glitter: what would that look like?

12:40 You: that would take some creative thought to figure out, but basically just more "refined"

12:40 Ruby Glitter: BTW, have you looked at the Schedule? I made some changes.

12:41 You: and re: political, political signs and such around. make it feel like a "campaign office" or something i think would be cool

12:41 You: but we're cool as is too

12:41 Ruby Glitter: I feel really uncomfortable with promoting specific candidates.

12:41 Ruby Glitter: It coudl turn peopel off.

12:41 Little Oto: ya, i like the 'rootsy' feel of it. very 'netroots'.

12:42 You: it could be candidates or campaigns from this past election-- the winners-- for all I care

12:42 You: it's more about making this space clearly about politics and technology

12:42 You: but ultimately it's about the people so no worries

12:42 You: and I'm just an opinion of 1! :)

12:42 Ruby Glitter: I'm not a registered Democrat, and I'm not always comfortbale with party boosterism.

12:43 Ruby Glitter: Although there are a lot of specific candidates I support.

12:43 You: I'm not talking about party boosterism

12:43 You: I'm talking about making this space political in feel

12:44 You: anyway, might be a good thing to invite ideas on frmom whoever shows up today

12:44 Little Oto: so, is it helpful for me to move the stools around?

12:44 You: yes that'd be great Little

12:44 You: thanks!

12:44 You: I'm off for a minute to check the schedule etc on the wiki

12:45 You: and to make a mini-schedule for today's session

12:45 You: looking good Ruby! :)

12:45 Little Oto: ruby, is a semi-circle ok with you?

12:45 Ruby Glitter: bigger, smaller?

12:45 Ruby Glitter: How is the size of that?

12:46 Ruby Glitter: I trust y'all on the seats. :-)

12:46 Ruby Glitter: But!

12:46 Ruby Glitter: make sure to just move them on the right axes so we don't get them floating in space. ;-)

12:47 Little Oto: :) ya, i'll try my best!

12:47 Ruby Glitter: when you move, things, there 's a way to limit the range of motion.

12:49 Ruby Glitter: ug.

12:49 Little Oto: back in a sec

12:50 Rik Riel is Offline

12:50 Ruby Glitter: I'm uploading graphics....

12:50 Ruby Glitter: my glasses disappeared.

12:50 Ruby Glitter: WTF?

12:51 Ruby Glitter: things are buggy...

12:53 Boliver Oddfellow is Online

12:53 Jimbo Perhaps is Offline

12:57 Ruby Glitter: What do you think of the changes I made, Little?

12:58 Little Oto: i like them a lot

12:58 Ruby Glitter: Cool!

12:58 Little Oto: especially the t-shirt

12:58 Little Oto: well-done!

12:58 Ruby Glitter: Thank you.

12:58 Ruby Glitter: It was a good suggestion, from Andrew.

12:58 Ruby Glitter: er, Drew.

12:58 Ruby Glitter: I a totall newbie at building.

12:59 Ruby Glitter: Now I want to make on that will have the "proposed rules of rootscampSl

12:59 Aldon Huffhines: Hey Ruby, Aldon from OAC

12:59 Yaakov Sputnik: Hey all

13:00 Ruby Glitter: Hi y'all.

13:00 Ruby Glitter: I'm just throwing otgether one more item here.

13:00 You: Hi folks.

13:01 Yaakov Sputnik: I'm just delighting in Rick Santorum's defeat

13:01 You: Ruby, I posted an agenda for this session 1 fyi at http://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/RootsCampSLSchedule

13:01 Aldon Huffhines: I'm kind of beat. I'm the technology coordinator for the Lamont campaign...

13:01 Aldon Huffhines: ... and we didn't have as much fun as Casey's folks must have had last night.

13:02 You: Aldon it's Andrew :)

13:02 Yaakov Sputnik: Oh.... nice to meet you! You have a right to be totally out of it!

13:02 You: (Hoppin)

13:02 You: sorry about the result.

13:03 Aldon Huffhines: A little disappointing, but we are okay...

13:03 Aldon Huffhines: I'm already gearing up for '08

13:03 Ruby Glitter: Hi Aldon. I met you at PDF in NYC last year.

13:03 Yaakov Sputnik: I can't believe we have to listen to Lieberman's voice for another six years... but the Lamont folks made a valiant effort of which they should be proud

13:03 Aldon Huffhines: Hi Ruby. Nice to see you again.

13:04 There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot.

13:04 Aldon Huffhines: Drew, Ruby, if you want, I could probably talk a little bit about the Lamont campaign for one of the sessions.

13:04 Krono Pro is Online

13:04 You: great idea

13:04 Aldon Huffhines: /is still looking around and can't see Drew.

13:04 Ruby Glitter: That would be great, Aldon!

13:04 Ruby Glitter: Can you add yourself ot the wiki @http://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/RootsCampSLSchedule ?

13:05 You: perhaps "How Second Life will give Ned Lamont a Second Lease on Political Life"?

13:05 Aldon Huffhines: I will. I just wanted to bounce it off of you and Drew first.

13:05 You: kidding

13:05 Aldon Huffhines: Drew, I was actually trying to get Ned on Second Life very early in the campaign.

13:05 Aldon Huffhines: Not many people really got the idea, however.

13:05 Yaakov Sputnik: How about "How Joe Lierberman should be banished to a world that doesn't really exist?"

13:06 You: well working on that is part of what we can achieve her

13:06 You: here

13:06 Little Oto: hey drew/ruby: i'm having a bit of a hard time with depth perception here, but I think that's somewhere close to a semi-circle, ya?

13:06 Aldon Huffhines: I also need to figure out what my schedule is like....

13:06 You: how to communicate effectively about the opportunity available in SL

13:06 Ruby Glitter: Let's see, Little.

13:06 You: for progressive netroots

13:06 You: I can't seem to sit properly

13:06 Aldon Huffhines: I've put my whole life on hold for the past nine months, and now everyone who I said to call after the election is calling.

13:06 Aldon Huffhines: Drew, I had that problem myself, when I was younger ;-)

13:07 You: tell them to come to RootsCamp now and they can all chat w/ you at their leisure! ;)

13:07 Yaakov Sputnik: Luckily my hangover from last night has made all but goofing around online impossible today

13:07 There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot.

13:07 Joy Link: hello everyone

13:07 Yaakov Sputnik: Hey Joy

13:07 Ruby Glitter: Hi Joy!

13:07 You: hi joy

13:08 Ruby Glitter: I think we'll be having kind of a rolling start here. ;-)

13:08 Yaakov Sputnik: That's okay.... I'm barely coherent today

13:09 Ruby Glitter: We all are!

13:09 Yaakov Sputnik: God, I am loving this Rumsfeld resignation (have NPR on)

13:09 Ruby Glitter: Let's start with some introductions, OK?

13:09 Aldon Huffhines: Sounds good, Ruby

13:09 Ruby Glitter: I'd liek to knwo who folks are in RL, if you don't mind, and what political activism you have been doing and/or hope to do.

13:09 Ruby Glitter: i can start. ;)

13:10 Ruby Glitter: I am Ruby Sinreich, I live in deeply-progressive central North Carolina.

13:10 Ruby Glitter: I do a lot with local politic, including running a blog orangepolitics.org

13:10 Ruby Glitter: And I work for an aorganiation that help prgressive grouse use the nternet as an organizing tool.

13:10 Ruby Glitter: whew!

13:11 Aldon Huffhines: In RL, I'm Aldon Hynes. I simply spell my last name a little differently here.

13:11 Yaakov Sputnik: I'm Jake.... late of NC, now in Atlanta.... really terrible about real life activism, though the local Drinking Liberally has sucked me in.... I'm your test case on whether this sort of thing can make people like me into better activists!

13:12 Aldon Huffhines: I did a lot of work on the Dean campaign back in 2003, setting up a lot of Dean Space sites...

13:12 Krono Pro is Offline

13:12 Aldon Huffhines: DeanSpace has evolved into CivicSpace, which is how I know Drew.

13:12 Aldon Huffhines: I was Blogmaster for DeStefano for CT, a Governors race...

13:12 Aldon Huffhines: Technology Coordinator for the Lamont Campaign...

13:12 Aldon Huffhines: And am now looking at joining a possible '08 campaign.

13:13 Aldon Huffhines: Details to be announced later.

13:13 Ruby Glitter: ;-)

13:13 Aldon Huffhines: I've been hanging out in SL for a while, and have done a little SL based Machinima

13:13 Aldon Huffhines: Very little programming. etc.

13:13 Little Oto: I'm Aaron Pettigrew in RL,

13:14 Little Oto: I live in Vancouver, Canada,

13:14 Little Oto: work for a web development co. called Social Signal

13:14 Ruby Glitter: From social signal, right? hey!

13:14 Little Oto: ya, hi Ruby

13:14 Little Oto: :)

13:14 Ruby Glitter: :-D

13:14 You: I'm Andrew Hoppin-- CivicSpace, Goodstorm, and now NASA (trying to get them to do all their software development open-source and transform their culture). Formerly the Draft Clark organizer for New York and in the IT Dept for his Presidential campaign.

13:14 Krono Pro is Online

13:14 Krono Pro is Online

13:15 You: I'm also on the Board of the New Organizing Institute, the folks behind RootsCamp, and YearlyKos.

13:15 You: hi Krono! :)

13:15 Ruby Glitter: Hi Krono.

13:15 Krono Pro: hi :)

13:15 Ruby Glitter: We're just doing introductions.

13:15 Krono Pro: ok ^_^

13:15 Ruby Glitter: BTW, everyone. Second Life is very buggy today!

13:16 Ruby Glitter: We all just finished, so it's your turn, krono. ;-)

13:16 Ruby Glitter: sorry to put you on the spot.

13:16 Krono Pro: krono pro, acorn, madird spain

13:16 Krono Pro: madrid*

13:16 Ruby Glitter: ¡Hola!

13:16 Krono Pro: hehehe

13:17 Ruby Glitter: So Dre has posted an agenda for us to get started.

13:17 Ruby Glitter: sorry Drew.

13:17 Ruby Glitter: http://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/RCSLSessionOne

13:17 Ruby Glitter: It goes liek this:

13:17 Ruby Glitter: 1. RootsCampSL Session 1: Planning for the Rest of RootsCampSL 2. People Attending 3. Overview of RootsCampSL 4. "Rules" for RootsCampSL 5. Process for RootsCampSL Sessions 6. Session Ideas, Proposals 7. RootsCampSL Venue 8. Publi

13:17 Ruby Glitter: sorry, that's a little messy.

13:18 Gus Plisskin is Online

13:18 Ruby Glitter: I thnk we have covered # 1 & 2.

13:18 Ruby Glitter: Agree/

13:18 Ruby Glitter: Agree?

13:18 Aldon Huffhines: Yup

13:18 Yaakov Sputnik: Sounds good

13:18 Little Oto: yup

13:18 Ruby Glitter: actually, we skipped #1, but that's OK fo now.

13:19 Ruby Glitter: The main thing is to discuss, the prcoess for how we will run sessions, the "rules" of roots camp, and what topics we'd liek to have.

13:19 Ruby Glitter: Let's start with Drew's suggestion for process.

13:19 Ruby Glitter: Can yo go over it, Drew?

13:19 You: yep

13:20 Ruby Glitter: Great.

13:20 William Maginot: hey

13:20 Ruby Glitter: Welcome.

13:20 William Maginot: thx

13:20 Ruby Glitter: we are discussing our proposed process for RootsCamp sessions.

13:20 You: first, could everyone please say "yes" to chatlogging this session?

13:20 Aldon Huffhines: yes

13:20 Yaakov Sputnik: yes

13:20 Krono Pro: yes

13:20 William Maginot: sure

13:20 You: that means you give us permission to record what is said, and republish it

13:20 Old McDunnough: yes

13:20 You: yes

13:21 Ruby Glitter: Si.

13:21 Little Oto: oui

13:21 Guest Book: Talk to me! Say 'gbhelp' for a list of commands.

13:21 You: I was thinking that we could run RootsCampSL like this:

13:22 You: 1) We have two scheduled "sessions" each day with interested topics and speakers

13:22 You: 1-2pm, and 2-3pm Pacific each day between now and next tuesday

13:22 You: schedule is on the wikie

13:22 You: wiki*

13:22 You: 2) The session convener announces we're getting started and introduces the topic at each session

13:22 You: 3) the convener nominates a "secretary"

13:23 You: ecretary asks everyone present to say "yes" to chatlogging and snapshots and film clips so that we can capture content from the session and continues to ask ongoingly whenever a new person drops in

13:23 You: 4) secretary captures snapshots, chatlogs, film clips of the session and posts to the rootscampsl.org wiki

13:24 You: 5) convener and anyone else in the group who volunteers edits the posted content into useful content-- the "results" of the RootsCamp session, suitable for "publication" on blogs etc.

13:24 You: so we end up with a content product as well as social relationships and learning as the results of each RootsCamp session.

13:24 You: and those are the "results" of RootsCampSL

13:24 You: and a group of SL experienced Netroots people ready to cause impact over the next 2 years using this platform...

13:24 Ruby Glitter: Peopel can hold sesiosn any time, thoguht right? Not just 1pm and 2pm.

13:24 You: right

13:25 You: we'd commit to getting good content for those 2 hours every day

13:25 You: but this space is open 24/7 for social drop-in

13:25 You: and for additional sessions if people wish

13:25 Ruby Glitter: Exactly.

13:25 Ruby Glitter: Does anyone have other questions, or suggestions about that process?

13:26 Krono Pro: sounds good to me

13:26 Old McDunnough: This is essentially my first time in this environment. Be warned.

13:26 You: GOOD, Old

13:26 Nolmendil Octagon: Same.

13:26 You: that's part of the point here...

13:26 Ruby Glitter: very goos!

13:26 You: catalyze an SL-savvy Netroots community

13:26 Ruby Glitter: er, gooD.

13:27 You: I was a total newbie a couple of weeks ago

13:27 You: we're all learning together as we go

13:27 Ruby Glitter: OK.

13:27 Old McDunnough: I'm hoping this helps inform the RootsCamp in Bloomington next week

13:27 Ruby Glitter: Cool, Old!

13:27 You: I'll "secretary" for this session Ruby.

13:27 You: yes that's also part of the point, Old.

13:28 Krono Pro is Offline

13:28 You: "test" ideas here

13:28 Krono Pro is Online

13:28 Ruby Glitter: There are also soem proposed "Rules of RootsCamp", but they are for RL rootscamps, so I think we shoudl adapt and then adopt them.

13:28 Ruby Glitter: You can read them (hopefully) by click ing over here...

13:28 You: please feel free to invite any of your Bloomington RootsCamp attendees to attend here this week

13:29 Old McDunnough: One of my colleagues is here. He's the SL guide

13:29 William Maginot: *grins*

13:29 Guest Book: Talk to me! Say 'gbhelp' for a list of commands.

13:29 Ruby Glitter: I'm not sure if we should discuss the "rules" or...?

13:30 You: I'd say let's dig right in

13:30 Ruby Glitter: Dig in to...?

13:30 You: the agenda

13:31 Ruby Glitter: thatis the next thing on the agenda.

13:31 You: oops ok

13:31 You: :)

13:31 Ruby Glitter: I guess the main thing to take from them in the "no tourists" attitude.

13:31 Ruby Glitter: everyone participates and contrbiutes.

13:31 Ruby Glitter: I edited it (the agenda) after you sent me the URL

13:32 Ruby Glitter: No need to word smith right now... ;-)

13:32 Ruby Glitter: Ay questions baout the 'rules" thing before we move on?

13:32 Yaakov Sputnik: none here

13:32 Ruby Glitter: Ok!

13:32 Aldon Huffhines: Looks good to me

13:32 Ruby Glitter: Next is Session ideas, porposal.

13:32 Guest Book: Talk to me! Say 'gbhelp' for a list of commands.

13:32 Ruby Glitter: proposalS

13:33 Ruby Glitter: We already have listed a few ideas on the wiki.

13:33 Ruby Glitter: click this thing on my right ro link to the wiki page w/ the schedule.

13:34 Ruby Glitter: Would you prefer that I go over the idea or start with your ideas?

13:34 Ruby Glitter: OK.

13:34 Ruby Glitter: I'll start with some ideas and then they will probably spur some of your own.

13:34 Yaakov Sputnik: sounds good to me

13:35 Little Oto: me too

13:35 Ruby Glitter: One of the great things in SL is the chat log will record all your brilliant suggestions.

13:35 Ruby Glitter: so we don't have to erite notes at the same time.

13:35 Jose Rote is Online

13:35 Ruby Glitter: OK, so in no particular order...

13:35 Ruby Glitter: # Accountability in the electoral system. Discussion with Rob Stuart of http://VoterStory.org

13:36 Ruby Glitter: Rob has agreed to this, but not scheduled a time.

13:36 Ruby Glitter: # Technology Tools for 2008 Discussions with Peter Leyden of the New Politics Institute

13:36 You: Likewise, Peter has agreeed to do this, but not scheduled a time

13:36 You: He was actually invited over to Linden Lab a couple weeks ago to 'chat'

13:37 You: I can't wait to hear all about THAT! :)

13:37 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

13:37 Ruby Glitter: :)

13:37 Ruby Glitter: # State/regional caucuses. Led by local bloggers and organizers.

13:37 Ruby Glitter: In states like NC we are very far apart, might benefit from meeting virtually.

13:37 Gillux Geer: Hi all

13:37 You: Hi Gillux

13:37 Krono Pro: hi

13:38 Ruby Glitter: We are discussin topics for the week.

13:38 You: Gillux, can you please say "yes" to chatlogging so we can "record" all our thoughts?

13:38 Gillux Geer: yes

13:38 You: thx

13:38 Ruby Glitter: # The brave new world of virtual campaigns. How should SL be used by progressive organizers?

13:38 Ruby Glitter: This is just a general one, I proposed.

13:38 Ruby Glitter: # New to Second Life? Discuss basic how-to's and find out about some of the great stuff already going on in-world. Led by Ruby Sinreich.

13:39 Ruby Glitter: # Social networking as a campaign tool. Led by Fred Stutzman (invited).

13:39 Rik Riel is Online

13:39 Ruby Glitter: Fred tells me his computer can't handle SL, but I will see if he can do this from my offic or something.

13:39 Ruby Glitter: he organized a BarCamp here in NC.

13:39 Ruby Glitter: # # # Rumsfeld is gone, now how do we get out of Iraq? Invite Bring Them Home Now, Stan Goff, September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows.

13:40 Ruby Glitter: just over there.

13:40 Ruby Glitter: This is very pertinent b/c Peaceful Tomorrow actually has a space here on Better World island.

13:41 Ruby Glitter: We also have a general election discussion schedule for 2pm today, a closing session about 2008 presidential, and then I'd liek ot have a closing party. ;-)

13:41 Ruby Glitter: Welcome, Signore.

13:41 Ruby Glitter: So folks, other ideas?

13:41 Signore Iredell: (hi all )

13:41 Ruby Glitter: Alson said he'd do one about the Lamont campaign.

13:42 You: can you please say "yes" to chatlogging this session Signore?

13:42 Ruby Glitter: Ahem... no tourists....

13:42 Ruby Glitter: Just brainstiorm.

13:42 Ruby Glitter: you don;thave to be an expert.

13:42 Ruby Glitter: just interested.

13:42 Signore Iredell: unfortunately i have to go now (and just arrived, pity...)

13:42 Aldon Huffhines: There are a lot of different topics that I'm really interested in...

13:42 Aldon Huffhines: e.g. Use of YouTube and other video sharing...

13:43 Aldon Huffhines: That ties in nicely with the Lamont campaign stuff.

13:43 Old McDunnough: I will just make a comment ... This is very difficult to get the hang of and to be able to follow the conversations. Lots of little buttons to figure out.

13:43 Aldon Huffhines: Since, we are here in SecondLife, something about using Machinima would also be very interesting.

13:43 Yaakov Sputnik: As sort of an outsider, I do think a discussion of the limitations of this as an organizing medium is important

13:43 Ruby Glitter: Hi Rik. We're discussion possible topics for the week.

13:43 Rik Riel: oo did someone say machinima!

13:44 Aldon Huffhines: Yeah... I've put together a couple first tests from SL...

13:44 Ruby Glitter: Rik, can you lead a session on machinima for activists?

13:44 Yaakov Sputnik: what is machinima, anyway?

13:44 Old McDunnough: Depending on when that machinima/limitations of the medium session takes place, I've got a few people at IU who might be very interested in that

13:44 Ruby Glitter: it's like video of SL.

13:44 Aldon Huffhines: I would love to see people creating Machinima based Political Ads.

13:44 Yaakov Sputnik: brb... real life

13:44 Ruby Glitter: check wikipedia

13:44 Rik Riel: It's filmmaking using 3d graphics tools

13:44 Aldon Huffhines: There are some GREAT machinima folks around here.

13:44 Rik Riel: I'd be willing to do that, if that's helpful

13:45 Ruby Glitter: Great!

13:45 Aldon Huffhines: Rik, that would be wonderful!

13:45 Rik Riel: but there might be other uses for me, i.e. civil society groups in SL, political campaigning, etc

13:45 Rik Riel: but whatever folks are most interested in

13:45 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

13:45 Little Oto: afk

13:45 Ruby Glitter: I wonder if we should do another round if introductions. there are a lot of new people.

13:46 Rik Riel: I've already put oto to sleep

13:46 Ruby Glitter: Heh.

13:46 You: OTO! :)

13:46 Ruby Glitter: I am Ruby Sinreich (again) and my life is exposed at lotusmedia.org

13:46 Ruby Glitter: other introductions?

13:46 Ruby Glitter: you can all go at once. ;-)

13:47 You: gbhelp

13:47 Guest Book:

VISITORS COMMANDS:

gbhelp - shows this help.

gbaddcomment text - adds your comment to the book.

gbsaycomments - say all the comments in the book.

ADMIN COMMANDS:

gbsayvisitors - says the visitor list.

gbresetvisitors - rests the administrator list.

gbdelcomment number - deletes a comment in the book.

gbresetcomments - resets the comment list.

gbsetrange number - sets the range in meters in which visitors are detected and logged.

gbsetwelcome text - sets the message that visitors will see when logged in. Empty text for no message.

OWNER COMMANDS:

gbaddadmin name - adds an administrator.

gbdeladmin name - deletes an administrator.

gbsayadmins - says the administrator list.

gbresetadmins - resets the administrator list.

gbresetall - resets all the lists.

Report bugs to Krono Pro, thank you.

13:47 Rik Riel: I'm Rik Riel / Rik Panganiban. Technology and politics is my game, rikomatic.com is my point of departure.

13:47 Krono Pro is Offline

13:47 Aldon Huffhines: Aldon Hynes, on Deaniac, Deanspace, CivicSpace, Lamont for Senate, http://www.orient-lodge.com (currently down_

13:47 Ruby Glitter: I've seen your blog, Rik. :-)

13:47 Rik Riel: By day I support academic-activist collaborations on media policy.

13:48 Gillux Geer: Gillo here, sometimes shaking totaltactics.org. Mostly working with environmental NGOs

13:48 Old McDunnough: Kevin Makice. Ph.D. student at Indiana, working to organize a BLoomington rootscamp for 17th/18th

13:48 Ruby Glitter: Gillo, formerly og GreenPeace!

13:48 Rik Riel: (drew has his back to us, like we've offended him.)

13:49 You: Andrew Hoppin-- CivicSpace, Goodstorm, DraftClark/Clark for Prez in 2004, currently NASA. Also do New Organizing Institute and YearlyKos work.

13:49 Gillux Geer: right, wider family now :)

13:49 Ruby Glitter: Little?

13:49 You: I do? (back to you)

13:49 Nolmendil Octagon: I'm Jason Baker, live near Ruby in NC, and am brand new to SL, so please be kind. I'm an undergraduate student and am interested in getting students civicly engaged.

13:49 Ruby Glitter: please re-intro...

13:50 Little Oto: Sorry, ya -- I'm Aaron Pettigrew, hailing from Vancouver

13:50 Ruby Glitter: Thanks, everyone!

13:50 Rik Riel: we let foreigners in here?

13:50 Ruby Glitter: you bet. now that Dems are in charge...

13:50 Gillux Geer: Rik: what do you mean by foreigners?

13:50 Ruby Glitter: :-P

13:50 Little Oto: :)

13:50 Rik Riel: /lol

13:51 Ruby Glitter: So how abot some more ideas for sessions or speakers or topics?

13:51 You: Krono Pro, a Spaniard, has been helping us every day w/ RootsCamp preparation too.

13:51 Ruby Glitter: yes, there are some others involved..

13:51 Aldon Huffhines: I'm not sure exactly what this would look like, but perhaps some people can pick up and run with this...

13:51 Rik Riel: something about most effective uses of internet as campaigning / organizing tool?

13:51 Ruby Glitter: Which reminds me: please join our group!

13:51 Aldon Huffhines: Some sort of live music... Using Live music in SL as part of political events...

13:51 Ruby Glitter: This allows us to sen dupdates easily and other stuff.

13:52 Old McDunnough: How do you join a group?

13:52 Little Oto: that's a neat idea, Aldon

13:52 Ruby Glitter: Hm, interesting Aldon.

13:52 Rik Riel: got to "search" then "groups" and then type "roots"

13:52 Aldon Huffhines: (I go to a lot of concerts here... We had Black47 at the Lamont event last night. etc...)

13:52 You: Great idea Aldon... we can get Concerts For Change people here, Music For America people here, Youth Speaks people here, etc.

13:52 Ruby Glitter: or you can get to it through my or Drew's profile.

13:52 Ruby Glitter: We'll also invite you all later.

13:52 Rik Riel: also U2inSL

13:53 You: can you post that to the wiki Aldon?

13:53 Rik Riel: which raises money / awareness for the one.org campaign

13:53 Aldon Huffhines: Drew, Rik, if you could speak with those folks, it would be great

13:53 You: I know the guy who organized Live8 a bit too...

13:53 You: but he's another foreigner... ;)

13:53 Gillux Geer: Anybody used the nonprofit mailing list that LindenLab setup?

13:53 Aldon Huffhines: / points to his one.org T-Shirt he got at a u2 concert here

13:54 Ruby Glitter: Gillux, no but I go to the weekly nonprofit meetups at the Tech Soup office on Info island.

13:54 You: didn't know about that Gillux... coud you add that to the RootsCampSL wiki as a resource under "Publicity" on today's agenda?

13:54 Rik Riel: is there any interest in discussing net neutrality as a 2007 campaigning / organizing issue?

13:54 Ruby Glitter: good topic.

13:55 Rik Riel: it will be quite central at the Natl Conf on Media Reform i Memphis in January

13:55 Gillux Geer: got it

13:55 You: Gillux, it's at rootscamp.pbwiki.com/RCSLSessionOne

13:55 You: Yes. And Rik, could you please go to the wiki and sign up for whatever times and topics you're motivated to do... machinima is good, but so are the others you proposed.

13:56 Rik Riel nods in agreement.

13:56 Ruby Glitter: As a reminder, we want to fill the 1pm and 2pm slots every day, but discussion leaders can do it any time they like.

13:56 You: Perhaps we can make the final day or RootsCampSL-- next Tuesday-- the day about "using SL for Netroots"

13:56 You: a wrap up of everything we've learned from doing this

13:56 You: and a training session for all of us going forward...

13:56 Ruby Glitter: I think we could do it before then. ;-)

13:56 Ruby Glitter: Oh, definitely.

13:57 Ruby Glitter: a lessions learned session is a good idea.

13:57 Gillux Geer: Ruby: when are the techsoup SL meeting?

13:57 Ruby Glitter: Every Friday at 8:30 PST.

13:58 Rik Riel: AM?

13:58 Ruby Glitter: OK, that's a lot of good ideas.

13:58 Ruby Glitter: yes, sorry AM.

13:58 Gillux Geer: ok, timezones suck

13:58 Ruby Glitter: I know it!

13:58 Aldon Huffhines: I just added my favs from this to the Wiki

13:58 Ruby Glitter: Hello AF.

13:58 You: welcome AF

13:58 Rik Riel: thanks for dropping in , AF.