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1/25/07 chatlog

11:46 Ruby Glitter: Woah!

11:46 errcheck Hicks: oh maybe up to 10, maybe more, not really sure, sometimes we start with 5 and end up with 15 and then back to 5

11:46 Ruby Glitter: Looks great errcheck.

11:47 Ruby Glitter: Hi Sara.

11:47 Sara Susa: ok, ill observe the meeting primarily, let you do your thing.

11:47 Sara Susa: hi ruby

11:47 errcheck Hicks: Ruby meet Sara, she is a reporter...for what paper again?

11:47 Sara Susa: portland phoenix in maine. this piece might also run in the boston phoenix.

11:47 Sara Susa: reporting on activism in SL

11:47 Ruby Glitter: Great!

11:48 Sara Susa: where are you from in RL. ruby?

11:48 Ruby Glitter: I live in Chapel Hill, NC.

11:48 errcheck Hicks: I have to do an email. so please chat while I go AFK

11:48 Sara Susa: ok

11:48 Ruby Glitter: OK.

11:48 Sara Susa: what do you do for work?

11:49 Ruby Glitter: I'm a consultant to nonprofits who want to do more bottom-up or network-centric advocacy on progressive issues.

11:49 Ruby Glitter: basically this is me: www.lotusmedia.org

11:49 Sara Susa: you mean they want to use the internet?

11:49 Ruby Glitter: and this is where i work: www.netcentriccampaigns.org

11:49 Sara Susa: how long have you been on sl?

11:49 Ruby Glitter: No, the Internet is a very helpful tool and we use it a lot, but it can be used in top-down down ways to.

11:50 Ruby Glitter: We emphasize social networks both in RL and online.

11:50 Ruby Glitter: I joined SL in June, but I didn't do anythign other than attend a few meetings until around the election.

11:50 Ruby Glitter: Right before the election, Drew Frobozz and I decided to organize a RootsCamp in SL.

11:50 Ruby Glitter: see rootscamp.org for our inspiration on that.

11:51 Sara Susa: how do i get a schedule of events for this weekend?

11:52 Ruby Glitter: the most updated space is is rootscampsl.org, however, errcheck hasn't been putting his info into it... cough. ;-)

11:52 Ruby Glitter: I expect it to be more up ot date after today's meeting.

11:52 Sara Susa: is roots camp organizing all of the events that will coincide with UFPJ's DC schedule?

11:52 Ruby Glitter: what's your name in RL, Sara?

11:52 Sara Susa: sara

11:52 Ruby Glitter: Your full name.

11:52 Sara Susa: sara donnelly

11:53 Sara Susa: portland phoenix

11:53 Ruby Glitter: Mine's Ruby Sinreich.

11:53 Ruby Glitter: since this is for a RL publication. ;-)

11:53 Sara Susa: my avatar actually looks alot like me. weird's me out. :)

11:53 Ruby Glitter: There oculd be events we don't knwo about, so i can't say we're organizing those.

11:53 Sara Susa: what's the best way to make sure i dont miss anything this weekend?

11:54 Ruby Glitter: I think this space will be a home base.

11:54 Sara Susa: ok.

11:54 Ruby Glitter: so there will be a display here about wharever's going on.

11:54 Sara Susa: do you expect opposition rallies?

11:54 Ruby Glitter: I will be around some on Satirday, but I want to go a RL protest, and on Sunday I'll be travelling.

11:54 Sara Susa: like people who want to mess you up?

11:55 Ruby Glitter: We haven't been bothered much by conservatives, but as errcheck has noticed, we are apparently on the radar of some christan/fascist folks.

11:55 Ruby Glitter: i really don't know, but it's something we need to thikn about given the conflict in SL lately.

11:56 Sara Susa: how can i find out more about that conflict? has the herald covered it?

11:56 Sara Susa: you mean the exploding pigs?

11:56 Ruby Glitter: those are just a tactic.

11:57 Ruby Glitter: the protest against the French nationalist party in SL seems to have helped to mobilize more nazi types.

11:57 errcheck Hicks: They are not Christian as it turn out, they are Pagan, which is really wierd

11:57 Sara Susa: my whole screen is made up of outlines of the world. did i press something or do you see that too?

11:57 Ruby Glitter: exploding pigs don't bother me for a sec.

11:58 Ruby Glitter: you or the server are having bandwidth trouble.

11:58 errcheck Hicks: maybe u got the "map" up

11:58 Sara Susa: shoot.

11:58 Sara Susa: i guess ill log off then come back.

11:58 Ruby Glitter: sounds liek wireframes, which is what SL draws when it can't rez the actual graphics.

11:58 Sara Susa: yes.

11:59 Sara Susa: like tron or something.

11:59 Ruby Glitter: I would just hang on and see if it clears up.

11:59 Sara Susa: ok.

11:59 Sara Susa: what rl groups are you active with ruby?

11:59 Ruby Glitter: How much time do you have? ;-)

12:00 Ruby Glitter: I'm active in local issues and run this local politics blog www.orangepolitics.org

12:00 Ruby Glitter: i chair the local Planning Board.

12:01 Ruby Glitter: I've been an activist for about 18 years (since I started college)

12:01 Ruby Glitter: that sounds funny.

12:02 Sara Susa: what's your goal for political activism in SL? do you think it can effect rl politics?

12:02 Ruby Glitter: through the blogsphere I enggage in a wide raneg of issues. in RL I go to protests for peace, civil rights, LGBT equailty, economic justice...

12:02 Ruby Glitter: Hey Effulgent.

12:02 Effulgent Brown: hiya

12:02 Effulgent Brown: i think i crashed one sec ill relog

12:02 errcheck Hicks: Hi Effulgent

12:02 Sara Susa: im going to log off and then come back. i cant see anyone's faces.

12:02 Ruby Glitter: With SL Netwroots, we sort have 2 goals:

12:03 Ruby Glitter: 1. to engage and inform peopel in SL about progressive issues and candidates. to use Sl as a tool for edvocacya nd campaigning.

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12:03 Ruby Glitter: 2. to get RL progressives interested inSL and to learn about it's potential as a creative tool.

12:03 Effulgent Brown: hiya sara

12:03 Sara Susa: hello

12:03 Ruby Glitter: Effulgent, this is Sara, a reporter from the Portland Phoenix in Maine

12:03 Effulgent Brown: hiya ruby, errcheck

12:03 Effulgent Brown: oh sweet heheh

12:04 Effulgent Brown: welcome :)

12:04 Effulgent Brown: i was sorta late, been building had a mind fart

12:05 Ruby Glitter: No prob.

12:05 Inventory (house of effulgent) bettyhud whispers: Entering sleep mode.

12:05 Effulgent Brown: cute couches hehehe

12:05 Ruby Glitter: People tend to run very late for these meetings lately.

12:05 Effulgent Brown: yeah sometimes knowing when sl time corresponds is tricky

12:06 Effulgent Brown: things are going nice, some of the art is still up

12:06 Effulgent Brown: :D

12:06 Ruby Glitter: Well, we actually shoudln't be that slack. we are busy peopel. and Drew has that other meeting at 1, so always has to leave early.

12:06 errcheck Hicks: I put up the plants and flowers, I haven't worked on the image viewers yet

12:07 Ruby Glitter: So are you not able ot recover the gaellery, errcheck?

12:07 Ruby Glitter: I like the plants.

12:07 Ruby Glitter: What's with this box in the middle here?

12:07 Effulgent Brown: yeah the plants make it nicer

12:07 Effulgent Brown: that box couldint be moved i think from yesterday

12:07 Ruby Glitter: Hey Sara. Is it better now?

12:07 errcheck Hicks: I decided to put them in a viewer, since they take so many prims, but I aske drew about getting other property here

12:07 errcheck Hicks: maybe

12:07 Sara Susa: yep

12:07 Sara Susa: now i can relax ;)

12:07 Ruby Glitter: Good.

12:07 taro milk-tea BOBA! whispers: mmmmmm! BOBA!

12:08 Ruby Glitter: Hi Rik!

12:08 Effulgent Brown: hi rik

12:08 Rik Riel: hi ya'lls

12:08 errcheck Hicks: Hi Rik

12:08 Rik Riel: getting ready to fight the power?

12:08 errcheck Hicks: Right On.

12:08 Effulgent Brown: hehehe yeah, ill bring chips

12:08 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:08 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

12:08 Ruby Glitter: You bet.

12:08 Sara Susa: hi rik my name is sara, i'm the reporter who emailed you earlier today.

12:09 Rik Riel: nice to meet you

12:09 Sara Susa: can we chat afterward about a time to meet up?

12:09 Rik Riel: sure

12:09 Rik Riel: ruby, how are plans going?

12:09 Sara Susa: effulgent, where are you from in RL?

12:09 Effulgent Brown: the plants look lovely

12:10 Effulgent Brown: in chicago

12:10 Ruby Glitter: Good. We are trying to keep things do-able. ;-)

12:10 Rik Riel: saw some protestors at the Davos thing that reminded me of the SL actions you alls are planning

12:10 Ruby Glitter: We had the peace poster galery already up, but it's beign reconfigured to be less prim-heavy.

12:10 Effulgent Brown: i think everyone is from the states

12:10 Effulgent Brown: ooh

12:10 errcheck Hicks: What is the Davos thing?

12:10 Effulgent Brown: i saw some signs

12:10 Ruby Glitter: We have been very US-oriented since our elections have that border as well.

12:11 Rik Riel: The Wrold Economic Forum in Davos. They are holding inteviews inworld with some of the bigwigs there

12:11 Effulgent Brown: switzerland? the G* meeting

12:11 Effulgent Brown: oh

12:11 Rik Riel: not the G8. the other one.

12:11 Effulgent Brown: oh all the economic dudes

12:11 Effulgent Brown: that last g8 was in scotland i think

12:11 errcheck Hicks: There is related activity in SL?

12:11 Rik Riel: basically the fattest 2,000 cats on the planet

12:12 Rik Riel: yep on the REuters sim

12:12 Rik Riel: secondlife.reuters.com

12:12 errcheck Hicks: and there are protesters there?

12:12 Ruby Glitter: I didn't know baou tthat.

12:12 Ruby Glitter: What's going on there?

12:12 Rik Riel: a couple of germans

12:12 errcheck Hicks: gotta love those euros

12:12 Rik Riel: just interviews with some of the big names: peter gabriel, the guy who runs easyjet, arianna huffington, the Dell guy, etc

12:13 Effulgent Brown: hmm

12:13 Ruby Glitter: that's going on SL or RL?

12:13 Effulgent Brown: i heard that gabriel guy was getting political

12:13 Rik Riel: both

12:13 Rik Riel: Peter Gabriel is amazing

12:13 No room to sit here, try another spot.

12:13 Rik Riel: his WITNESS project is what web2,0 should be about

12:13 Effulgent Brown: yeah sorta grew up on that music

12:13 Effulgent Brown: intresting

12:14 Effulgent Brown: has anyone ever suggested something about guantanamo, something on that deal

12:14 errcheck Hicks: The ability for global witnessing on the web now has such great potential

12:14 Effulgent Brown: isnt cindy down there for the 5th year anneversary

12:14 errcheck Hicks: Cindy Sheehan?

12:15 Effulgent Brown: i dont know what camp x-ray looks like but it could be built i think

12:15 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:15 errcheck Hicks: She is speaking a few blocks from my house tomorrow night, she just got back from Cuba

12:15 Effulgent Brown: she and madea were there recently i think

12:15 Effulgent Brown: yeah she was

12:15 Effulgent Brown: !

12:15 errcheck Hicks: I was thinking about trying to hook her up with an SL interview

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12:16 Effulgent Brown: it would be intresting

12:16 You decline RootsCamp on Progressive Island, Progressive Island (179, 57, 2 from A group member named Ruby Glitter.

12:16 errcheck Hicks: but technical and she must be busy

12:16 Effulgent Brown: i wonder if it would be possible to build some of the jail cells in guantanamo

12:16 errcheck Hicks: but maybe possible

12:16 errcheck Hicks: I so wanted to build an Abu Ghraib

12:16 Effulgent Brown: or at least the one in syria, there is a description of it in a book i have

12:16 Rik Riel: Effulgent, interesting. But theres possible wrong interpretations from the BDSM crowd

12:17 Effulgent Brown: it might be easier to find out about abu gharib

12:17 Rik Riel: similar to the Sex TRafficking stuff that the Global Kids were doing

12:17 Ruby Glitter: I was hoping for a few more folks, but i think we shoudl go ahead and start talking about plans for this weekend.

12:17 Effulgent Brown: yeah theres always that oy'

12:17 Ruby Glitter: not to cut anyone off...

12:17 errcheck Hicks: Global kids, in SL?

12:17 Rik Riel: yeah

12:17 Ruby Glitter: Wha?

12:17 Rik Riel: mostly on the teen grid

12:17 errcheck Hicks: interesting

12:17 Effulgent Brown: nice

12:18 Rik Riel: see the ball and chian I'm wearing

12:18 Effulgent Brown: do we have little balls here to launch people to sites, that could help for the event something low prim

12:18 END CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING - Ball and Chain: Slavery isn't just a thing of the past. End child sex trafficking NOW! Go to www.stopcsec.us for more information.

12:18 Ruby Glitter: That's prettyinteresting.

12:18 errcheck Hicks: OK here's what I got, Saturday is tune in to the demonstration day, with streaming media links everwhere we can get them

12:19 errcheck Hicks: especiall here

12:19 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

12:19 errcheck Hicks: Sunday I got my lecture on Deconstructing Fascism at the COnscious Lounge

12:19 Ruby Glitter: do you have a SLURl for that?

12:19 errcheck Hicks: Also Sunday . DJ Peace Party at Conscious loungse 2pm

12:20 Effulgent Brown: nice

12:20 errcheck Hicks: Monday a debriefing of march participants

12:20 errcheck Hicks: TBA

12:21 Ruby Glitter: meaning folks who were there can get together talk about what hapenned?

12:21 errcheck Hicks: and that's what I got.

12:21 errcheck Hicks: Yes

12:21 Effulgent Brown: that sounds good

12:21 Rik Riel: sounds awesome.

12:21 Rik Riel: Is there a press release or write up I can get around?

12:21 Ruby Glitter: Plus the peace poster gallery!

12:21 errcheck Hicks: Also to explore what Web 2.0 means to the march and activism around it

12:21 Ruby Glitter: Rick, the list of events is being maintained at http://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/J27-events-for-peace-in-Second-Life

12:21 errcheck Hicks: Yes the Peace Posters

12:22 Ruby Glitter: but give me a minute ot update it after this meeting ;-)

12:22 Rik Riel: great, I'll get it around to the press contacts I have

12:22 Rik Riel: Perhaps I can tear the Reuters people away from Davos for a bit.

12:23 Ruby Glitter: I have two ideas that I wanted to put out for discussion to see what y'all think and how hard theyw oudl be...

12:23 errcheck Hicks gave you Conscious Lounge - a new club/me, Isle of Genesis (223, 33, 32).

12:23 Ruby Glitter: One would be to get peopel to converge on the new SL Capitol Hill. even though there probably wouldn't be anythign going on there.

12:23 Ruby Glitter: Then we'd have ot have at least one speaker to maek it feel liek a rally ;-) or we coudl do an open mic..

12:24 Rik Riel: that would make some nice press

12:24 Effulgent Brown: yeah it would be nice

12:24 Rik Riel: and photos

12:24 Ruby Glitter: problem is we need lots of peopel all at once, which might be hard to get.

12:24 Ruby Glitter: i think we are more liekly to get a steady stream throughout the weekend.

12:24 Rik Riel: you should plan on Sunday then, perhaps getting people mobilized and ready on saturday

12:25 Effulgent Brown: if you send a message to progressive group officers it might be possible that they can alert everyone

12:25 Rik Riel: or even a brief demo on monday

12:25 Ruby Glitter: Hm. other problem: i can't be here on Sunday as i am travelling.

12:25 Rik Riel: which is better for the media cycle

12:25 errcheck Hicks: And I am very busy Saturday

12:25 Ruby Glitter: Monday is a good possibility, if it's later in the afternoon.

12:25 Effulgent Brown: i know im pretty much always here

12:25 Rik Riel: Ruby what time zone are you?

12:25 Ruby Glitter: EST.

12:26 Ruby Glitter: I have ameeting on monday until at least 3 pm.

12:26 Effulgent Brown: ill try to get people

12:26 Rik Riel: that might be too late for the media cycle

12:26 Ruby Glitter: so 5pm woudl be good for me. don't kwo about others.

12:26 Rik Riel: can't do earlier?

12:26 errcheck Hicks: I know Ana went to the RL demo, and we shoudl get some others like her for monday

12:26 Ruby Glitter: I just can't I am runnign a meeting from noon to 3 for work.

12:26 Ruby Glitter: Maybe it could be in the news for Tuesday...

12:26 Rik Riel: it's too late after the RW demos

12:27 Effulgent Brown: well the audience we might get the most response from could be inworld and online

12:27 Effulgent Brown: if everything goes well it will get attention that will go beyond the actual event

12:27 Rik Riel: What about before noon, Ruby? Even for 30 minutes

12:27 Ruby Glitter: *maybe*

12:27 errcheck Hicks: I do find that there is an immediacy to this world, where the online people respond to calls

12:27 Ruby Glitter: i am going ot be at a client's office. So i just cam

12:28 Ruby Glitter: t can't make a lot of committments.

12:28 Rik Riel: ok, well we need you there, obviuosly

12:28 Ruby Glitter: Also, before noon is to early for the left coast, i think.

12:29 Rik Riel: noon is 9am on the left coast

12:29 errcheck Hicks: I can bee here Saturday 10am to 3pm, Sunday at Conscious Lounge 11am to 6pm, Monday ??

12:29 Effulgent Brown: 5pm slt should be in the ballpark

12:29 Ruby Glitter: right, before 9 not a lot of peopel are online I would think.

12:29 Effulgent Brown: yeah in the morning its pretty thin

12:29 Rik Riel: 9AM PST and 12 EST is before work for some and during lunch for others

12:29 errcheck Hicks: The euros are on a different schedule,

12:30 Rik Riel: forget the euros

12:30 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:30 errcheck Hicks: yeah

12:30 Rik Riel: they have to go fight the fascists at Front National

12:30 Effulgent Brown: the french might show

12:30 Ruby Glitter: how about 2pm SLT (5pm EST)?

12:30 Effulgent Brown: yeah that is gonna be a challenge

12:30 Effulgent Brown: or if they show support for us, we can reciprocate

12:30 Effulgent Brown: i went to their event

12:31 errcheck Hicks: 2pm Monday SLT, OK with me,

12:31 Rik Riel: I'm just kidding. I can invite some euro activists.

12:31 Rik Riel: ok 2pm SLT monday

12:31 Effulgent Brown: hehehehe that front national thing was hilarious

12:32 Rik Riel: If we can get 20 people committed, taht would be enough

12:32 Effulgent Brown: yeah thats good

12:32 Ruby Glitter: so my other idea can work support the rally at capitol hill.

12:32 Ruby Glitter: i was thinking we shoudl invite peopel to come ane make their own signs.

12:32 Ruby Glitter: Liek put their own messages on them.

12:32 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:32 errcheck Hicks: I have an ACLU sign kit

12:32 Ruby Glitter: we can plant all the signs in the ground to show the messages, but they can also carry them (or copies) to capitol hill.

12:32 Effulgent Brown: i am wondering if a person has a sign can you still click on it and launch a website

12:32 Ruby Glitter: Cool!

12:32 Effulgent Brown: hmm

12:33 errcheck Hicks: sorry rik

12:33 Rik Riel: no worries

12:33 Ruby Glitter: Yes, there's a very simple script that does that effulgent

12:34 Effulgent Brown: yeah i was wondering if it would hurt lag

12:34 Effulgent Brown: the worst thing is to introduce a lot of lag

12:34 errcheck Hicks: I would also suggest taking small groups of marchers thru other sims

12:34 Effulgent Brown: those huge nbc sims are always empty but they make a nice backdrop

12:35 Rik Riel: ordinal malaprop also has free signs taht you can customize

12:35 Ruby Glitter: Where?

12:35 Effulgent Brown: rockefeller center wouldint be bad

12:35 Ruby Glitter: Perfect, Rik.

12:35 errcheck Hicks: I like lag in the punk clubs with a good track on

12:35 errcheck Hicks: every thing goes haywire

12:35 Ruby Glitter: What's the best way to help peopel make their own without having to make and upload the texture?

12:36 Rik Riel: I don't know any easy way without uploading a texture

12:36 errcheck Hicks: Providing the texture, or making it up, I can put text on a 512x testure and upload in about 2 mins

12:36 Ruby Glitter: We could make a bunch and let peopel choos eth ones they like.

12:36 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:36 Ruby Glitter: we already have errchecks whole gallery of awesome ideas...

12:36 Effulgent Brown: just have the textures in a box

12:36 Effulgent Brown: they can pick

12:36 Ruby Glitter: or they could be displayed and peopel can click on one to get a sign of it.

12:37 Effulgent Brown: some people may be new though they might not know what to do

12:37 Ruby Glitter: putting it in a box makes it hard to browse (unless i'm not using inventory correctly)

12:37 Rik Riel: well some people would be interested in throwing together a sign, so there should be instructions on that

12:37 Ruby Glitter: Yes, Rik.

12:37 Effulgent Brown: how about like the sign thing, just put all the textures inside and click to scroll

12:37 Ruby Glitter: Is there a way to visually browse the textures?

12:38 Effulgent Brown: that would be easier , they just wear it and then click the sign to choose the one they like best

12:38 Ruby Glitter: Ah cool.

12:38 Effulgent Brown: yeah if you look inside

12:38 Effulgent Brown: ill do one quick

12:38 errcheck Hicks: I just made a notecard, T-shirts I'd like to see

12:38 errcheck Hicks: takers?

12:38 Rik Riel: yeah one object with different messages would be ideal

12:39 Ruby Glitter: i don't knwo what you mean errcheck.

12:39 Ruby Glitter: but let's make a t-short for this weekend.

12:39 Ruby Glitter: that I knwo how to do. :-)

12:39 Effulgent Brown: hmm im horrible at making clothes

12:39 errcheck Hicks: The notecard has som very funny slogans against the war

12:39 Ruby Glitter: t-shirts are easy.

12:39 errcheck Hicks: They can be used for signs, the T-shirt thing is what the email was labeled

12:39 errcheck Hicks gave you Tshirts I'd Like to see.

12:40 errcheck Hicks: i gave 2 u

12:40 Ruby Glitter: Cool, thanks.

12:40 errcheck Hicks: u want one Sara?

12:40 Effulgent Brown: lol these are funny

12:40 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

12:41 errcheck Hicks: I thought it was a pretty good set, forwarded from a Princeton Fellow

12:41 errcheck Hicks: I could crank out some signs with those today

12:41 Ruby Glitter: OK, s we will have a sign with several textures, so folks can "wear" it and choos ethe message of their choice, right?

12:41 Sara Susa: yes, can i have one please?

12:42 errcheck Hicks: u got it

12:42 Ruby Glitter: I can also make a stand with some free t-shirts.

12:42 errcheck Hicks: Yes, many free t-shirts, I have made at lease 5

12:42 Ruby Glitter: And should we tell peopele to converge HERE for the march on the Capitol, or just tell peopel to go straight there?

12:43 errcheck Hicks: I think gather here first

12:43 Ruby Glitter: I agree.

12:43 errcheck Hicks: Get yer sign

12:43 Ruby Glitter: that way we can have a sign or a person with the latest info. and a link to teleport to the right spot.

12:43 errcheck Hicks: head on over when there is critical mass

12:43 Rik Riel: sounds good.

12:43 Ruby Glitter: Can we get some kind of speaker?

12:44 Ruby Glitter: We could also play a speech from the real rally.

12:44 errcheck Hicks: For an "audio" speaker, we need land permission don't we?

12:44 Ruby Glitter: (although I don't knwo how to do that)

12:44 Rik Riel: yeah we ain't gonna get that

12:44 Ruby Glitter: yeah, good point.

12:44 Ruby Glitter: we could send peopel to an URL to hear it online....

12:44 Rik Riel: although we can give out short soundbites to put as gestures

12:45 Ruby Glitter: ohm that's a good idea.

12:45 errcheck Hicks: We can make up CD players, or use gesture-sounds, but URLs will probably be the backup technique

12:45 Ruby Glitter: can we make a peace gesture?

12:45 Ruby Glitter: I don't k nwo how to make them.

12:45 errcheck Hicks: not my specialty

12:45 Rik Riel: what is a peace gesture?

12:45 Ruby Glitter: two fingers in the air, front of the hand.

12:45 errcheck Hicks: just the peace sign is a start

12:45 Rik Riel: like the two fingers up thing?

12:45 Rik Riel: you can't control hands in SL

12:45 Ruby Glitter: aw.

12:46 errcheck Hicks: hmm i wondered about that

12:46 errcheck Hicks: What about an attactment peace hand

12:46 Rik Riel: You have to do it with an attachment, which is harder to script and make

12:46 Ruby Glitter: Ug.

12:46 Effulgent Brown: yeah it works

12:46 Ruby Glitter: love the sign, effulgent!

12:47 Effulgent Brown: thankies

12:47 errcheck Hicks: all i see is wood

12:47 Effulgent Brown: if you put multiple textures inside the people can pick

12:47 Effulgent Brown: i think i can add an attach anim so it looks better

12:47 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

12:47 Ruby Glitter: What other sort of gesture could we make?

12:48 Effulgent Brown: hear no evil see no evil kind?

12:48 Ruby Glitter: ha ha. that's a though

12:48 errcheck Hicks: Sign language for Peace??

12:48 Effulgent Brown: that might be intresting

12:48 Ruby Glitter: er, a thoughT

12:48 Ruby Glitter: mayeb just holding the sign will be adequate. ;-)

12:48 Effulgent Brown: so people could line up in front of the senate

12:48 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:49 Ruby Glitter: how about a gesture that raises the arm up ad dow to do while you are wearing the sign?

12:49 Effulgent Brown: my attach ones are not really good for signs

12:49 Ruby Glitter: that's a good idea for a photo op, effulgent.

12:50 errcheck Hicks: Bend over, Detain This on underwear

12:50 errcheck Hicks: Also Pink Slip Bush - pink slip

12:50 Ruby Glitter: OK, so to recap plans so far:

12:51 Ruby Glitter: all weekend: peace poster gallery, get your peace sign, free peace t-shirts.

12:51 Ruby Glitter: sunday: errcheck talk at Concious Lounge & party @ concisou lounge

12:51 Ruby Glitter: monday: march on virtual capitol hill

12:51 errcheck Hicks: I'll do a T-shirt and Sign workshop Saturday noon

12:51 Ruby Glitter: cool!

12:51 Ruby Glitter: what time?

12:51 Effulgent Brown: thats not bad

12:51 Ruby Glitter: liek i said before, i don't want to overreach on this one.

12:51 errcheck Hicks: noon

12:52 Ruby Glitter: noon SLT?

12:52 errcheck Hicks: yes, always SLT for me since i am PST=SLT

12:52 Ruby Glitter: Right.

12:52 Effulgent Brown: okie

12:53 Ruby Glitter: so before all of that we nee dto make a t-shirt stand and sign display/giver.

12:53 Ruby Glitter: BTW, Drew messaged me - he can't get online but will give us whatever land permission we need.

12:53 Ruby Glitter: Someone just has to tell him what to do.

12:53 Ruby Glitter: (Sara, Drew is our co-organizer and owns this island.)

12:53 Rik Riel: who is the press contact? Ruby?

12:54 Effulgent Brown gave you Texture Protest Sign.

12:54 Ruby Glitter: I can be.

12:54 Ruby Glitter: Errcheck do you want to do that as well?

12:54 Effulgent Brown: i need to dig up some textures for this thing, this was just a test

12:54 Ruby Glitter: we can be east coast/west coast.

12:54 Rik Riel: I'll do machinima for the monday event

12:54 Ruby Glitter: killer!

12:54 Effulgent Brown: cool

12:54 Rik Riel: make some nice video for later

12:54 errcheck Hicks: I'll IM him, we just need to get auto return off for the weekend, and rez permission on the other non rootscamp land, temporary

12:54 Ruby Glitter: yeah.

12:54 Ruby Glitter: that woudl seriously rock out.

12:55 Ruby Glitter: souds good, errcheck.

12:55 errcheck Hicks: I'll contact Drew

12:55 Ruby Glitter: can we set a time for more building (t-shirt stand, etc.) we can do it together.

12:55 Effulgent Brown: that should be nice

12:55 Ruby Glitter: I think you can build fater and better than me, Effulgent, but I want to help.

12:55 Ruby Glitter: er, faSter

12:56 Ruby Glitter: when's good?

12:56 Effulgent Brown: lol i think i have something alredy we can use

12:56 Effulgent Brown: pretty much anytime

12:56 Effulgent Brown: im on in the mornings though

12:56 Effulgent Brown: bf is sick, been soaking up time lately

12:56 Ruby Glitter: and you are CST?

12:56 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:56 Effulgent Brown: i

12:56 Ruby Glitter: how about later today?

12:57 Effulgent Brown: i get up at 6 am though

12:57 Effulgent Brown: yeah that would work

12:57 Effulgent Brown: just let me know when you are ready

12:57 Ruby Glitter: I supposed to be writing a huge report for work, so I think I;'d liek to get this out of the way so i can shit gears to that.

12:57 errcheck Hicks: lovely typo

12:57 errcheck Hicks: calssic

12:57 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:58 errcheck Hicks: calssic

12:58 Ruby Glitter: Oh! i just rememebred. any feedback on the graphic i made for the event?

12:58 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:58 Ruby Glitter: I'll have ot change the date.

12:58 Effulgent Brown: ooh its cute

12:58 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

12:58 Rik Riel: the green is very peaceful

12:59 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:59 Ruby Glitter: thanks.

12:59 errcheck Hicks: is that green fire with a tree?

12:59 Effulgent Brown: peace in the metaverse is nice too

12:59 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

12:59 Ruby Glitter: I basically tried the merge the UFPJ look and the rootscamp look. ;-)

12:59 Rik Riel: It's cool. But waht about "Avatars Against the War"?

12:59 Ruby Glitter: that's the general rootscamp logo. borrowed and adapted from barcamp.

12:59 Ruby Glitter: i liek that, Rik.

13:00 errcheck Hicks: I like it

13:00 errcheck Hicks: aaw

13:00 Ruby Glitter: the cool thing about "avatars against the war' is it says more in less space, too.

13:01 Ruby Glitter: or i coudl say both... peace in the metaverse/avaters against the war. is that what you meant?

13:01 Effulgent Brown: i got some better images for the sign i can put it in a box with a landmark

13:01 Ruby Glitter: i am sense sometimes.

13:01 Sara Susa: can i get a copy of the event graffic? my art director might want to use it in print.

13:01 Rik Riel: yeah both, if it fites

13:01 Rik Riel: fits

13:01 Ruby Glitter: sara you can click on the box ot get a copy.

13:01 Ruby Glitter: but i will be updating it.

13:01 Rik Riel: post it to the wiki too

13:01 Ruby Glitter: yes.

13:01 Ruby Glitter: oh I'll make you a better version for print.

13:01 Sara Susa: ok, ill wait until monday to get it then.

13:02 Sara Susa: or whenever you have it ready.

13:02 errcheck Hicks: please make dispensers copyable, so the can be redistributed

13:02 Ruby Glitter: I'll be making it after ths meeting.

13:02 Ruby Glitter: good thingking errcheck. my bad.

13:02 Ruby Glitter: so here's my plan:

13:02 Ruby Glitter: 1. update the wiki

13:02 Ruby Glitter: 2. make a new graphic

13:02 Ruby Glitter: 3. come back here and build stuff.

13:02 info giver gave you RootsCamp J27 info card.

13:02 info giver gave you J27 poster1.

13:02 errcheck Hicks: Very good

13:03 Ruby Glitter: Hi tarek & Spencer.

13:03 Ruby Glitter: We're just wrppin up our meeting.

13:03 Effulgent Brown: Welcome

13:03 Spencer Mukerji: I know

13:03 Rik Riel: oh good volunteers

13:03 Spencer Mukerji: I'm late

13:04 Tarek Looby: hi. Apologies. Will there be minutes?

13:04 Ruby Glitter: yes, they will be at http://rootscamp.pbwiki.com/RootsCampSLminutes within an hour

13:04 Drew Frobozz is Online

13:04 Tarek Looby: thank you

13:05 You have offered friendship to Spencer Mukerji

13:05 Rik Riel: sara, I gotta roll soon. Did you want to chat now?

13:05 Sara Susa: sure.

13:05 Rik Riel: k, where should we go?

13:05 Sara Susa: up to you.

13:06 Ruby Glitter: y'all I'm going ot go AFK while i work on stuff.

13:06 Ruby Glitter: want to start buildoing or wait for me?