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2/1/07 chat log

12:00 Ruby Glitter: Hey Drew.

12:01 Drew Frobozz: Hey Ruby!

12:01 Ruby Glitter: How was mexico?

12:02 No room to sit here, try another spot.

12:02 Ruby Glitter: Hey, Old.

12:02 Old McDunnough: Hi

12:02 Old McDunnough: I have 30 minutes today!

12:02 Ruby Glitter: Woo, 30 whole minutes!

12:02 Ruby Glitter: ;-)

12:03 Drew Frobozz: Mexico was 95 degrees-- 'nuff said! ;)

12:03 Ruby Glitter: Nice! (I like heat.)

12:03 Old McDunnough: We're at about 9.5 here in Bloomington

12:03 Ruby Glitter: Hey, Rik!

12:03 Rik Riel: Hey!

12:03 Rik Riel: hi yalls

12:03 Rik Riel: Como fue Mexico, Drew?

12:03 Old McDunnough: Hi

12:04 Ruby Glitter: We didn't have too many people here last week either.

12:05 Ruby Glitter: But as I mentioned we do have a bunch more group members.

12:05 Ruby Glitter: (Wonder how many are right-wing moles...)

12:05 Ruby Glitter: In any case, I think this a good time for some discussion of general strategy and stuff, espcially if we don't have n00bs.

12:05 Ruby Glitter: What do you think, Drew?

12:05 Rik Riel: Ruby, did you get my note about the video?

12:06 Drew Frobozz: great

12:06 Ruby Glitter: Oh, yeah. Sorry I didn't reply Rik.

12:06 Drew Frobozz: good topic

12:06 Ruby Glitter: That's a good discussion to have today.

12:06 Rik Riel: no worries

12:06 Drew Frobozz: Hey Rik-- Mexico fue caliente

12:06 Ruby Glitter: Welcome, Jaz.

12:06 Jaz Flossberg: Hi,

12:06 Rik Riel: Que bueno. Es como un refrigerador aqui.

12:06 Rik Riel: hi jaz

12:07 Jaz Flossberg: Of course, I'm new. Will just listen

12:07 Drew Frobozz: en este momento estoy en Nueva York y si-- es asi

12:07 Drew Frobozz: congelado...

12:07 Ruby Glitter: Tambien en DC, donde estoy ahora.

12:07 Ruby Glitter: ¡necesito calor!

12:08 Rik Riel: ok, sorry this is an US politics meeting, not mexican

12:08 Ruby Glitter: Pues, let's get started.

12:08 Ruby Glitter: ;-)

12:08 Rik Riel: a smuch as I need to practice my spanish

12:08 Ruby Glitter: We debriefed the march last week, but I thought I'd ask if you have any thoughts, Jaz?

12:08 Ruby Glitter: Any positive or negative feedback?

12:08 Ruby Glitter: Drew, any questions since you weren't able to be there?

12:08 Drew Frobozz: sure

12:08 Drew Frobozz: how many people participated?

12:09 Jaz Flossberg: I'm sorry, I am just so new that I can't really contribute at this time

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Capitol Hill reported 126 avatars at last check.

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Welcome Muskie.

12:09 Drew Frobozz: nice

12:09 Drew Frobozz: how was it working w/ that sim? was it the ClearInk folks?

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Did you attend the Avatars Against the War? We are just discussing any feedback on the event(s).

12:09 Muskie Marquette: Hello everyone

12:10 Rik Riel: they were superbe!

12:10 Ruby Glitter: They were very helpful.

12:10 Ruby Glitter: They actually came here and found me, and offerred their support.

12:10 Muskie Marquette: Yes I did, in my crow AV

12:10 Ruby Glitter: They added arrows at Cpitol Hill to indicate the macrh route, and set the TP destination to where I asked.

12:10 Ruby Glitter: Ah, cool Muskie,.

12:10 Ruby Glitter: I remember the crow.

12:11 Ruby Glitter: Welcome Laslopantomik!

12:11 Laslopantomik Yao: Hello..

12:11 Ruby Glitter: Any other questions or feedback?

12:12 Laslopantomik Yao: i am very glad of your iniciativ, i am from spain and my english spelling is half

12:12 Jaz Flossberg: I am wondering what impact it had on others in SL. Was there reporting on it?

12:12 Rik Riel: laslopantomik, hay muchas personas aqui qui hablan espanol

12:12 Ruby Glitter: Good question. There was quite a lot of coverage, Jaz.

12:12 Laslopantomik Yao: Perfecto, cuenten conmigo

12:13 Jaz Flossberg: In the Linden Blog? Linden news, etc.?

12:13 Jaz Flossberg: I find people here in SL are less concerned with politics than they are in RL.

12:14 Ruby Glitter: Linden officially ignored it. ;-) but it was mentioned on several blogs (including Rik's) and also SLNN.

12:14 Jaz Flossberg: Oh, good. thanks

12:14 Old McDunnough: My only experiences in world have been political (or educational).

12:14 Rik Riel: And wonkette!

12:14 Ruby Glitter: Also BBC radio and a reporter from Prtland, ME covered it

12:14 Ruby Glitter: see some at http://del.icio.us/tag/j27sl

12:14 Jaz Flossberg: That's great!

12:14 Ruby Glitter: and http://technorati.com/tag/j27sl

12:16 Ruby Glitter: The coverage has been interesting exactly because we are defining the political use of SL as we go.

12:16 Ruby Glitter: A lot of folks don't think of it as this kind of tool.

12:16 Jaz Flossberg: That is really important for the future

12:16 Ruby Glitter: Do you think Drew is lagged?

12:16 Ruby Glitter: He's been typing for a long time...

12:16 Jaz Flossberg: SL is exploding with new members

12:17 Drew Frobozz: oops..

12:17 Drew Frobozz: has anyone captured the methodology for organizing that successful in-world action in a way that could be learned from by other groups?

12:17 Muskie Marquette: This is a superb tool: the best I've seen so far for organizing, which iswhy I amd my group built a presence here

12:17 Ruby Glitter: What's your group, Muskie?

12:17 Laslopantomik Yao: i agrree withe muskie

12:17 Drew Frobozz: I agree.

12:17 Jaz Flossberg: yes

12:18 Drew Frobozz: I think SL could be to politics for 2008 what Meetup was to 2004

12:18 Ruby Glitter: I'm not sure if it's there yet, but it will definitely have an increasing impact.

12:18 Rik Riel: Drew, I think there are difficult questions to answer about organizing effective in-world actions

12:18 Laslopantomik Yao: A group of groups is needed.

12:18 Ruby Glitter: Hey, Effulgent!

12:18 Drew Frobozz: not yet for sure-- but by 2008.

12:18 Effulgent Brown: Hiya Ruby

12:18 Effulgent Brown: hey yall

12:18 Effulgent Brown: :)

12:18 Jaz Flossberg: Hi Effulgent

12:18 Muskie Marquette: In SL, the Autistic Liberation Front; outside of SL we're the group of ppl who create http://www.autistics.org

12:18 Rik Riel: questions of larger political impact, in-world logistical limits, and connection to RW campaigns

12:19 Old McDunnough: I'm going to have to jet in about 10 minutes, unfortunately. I was wondering if there might be some way to create some candidate visualizations depicting their respective progressive positions.

12:19 Muskie Marquette: We're essentialy a disability rights group focused on the autistic community

12:19 Old McDunnough: Something that could be a sort of interactive citizen's toolkit, but something that would highlight progressive actions and beliefs.

12:19 Jaz Flossberg: Since I'm new I may asked questions that are already answered

12:19 Drew Frobozz: Rik-- those are being worked on. I'll give a full report on YearlyKos in SL later

12:20 Jaz Flossberg: Does this group have any ties with RL groups?

12:20 Ruby Glitter: Cool, Muskie. Did you see the "In My Language" video on YouTube?

12:20 Muskie Marquette: I did more than see it: the creator is my best friend and neighbor :)

12:20 Ruby Glitter: Cool! Tell her she rocks.

12:21 Ruby Glitter: But I think she knows that.

12:21 Drew Frobozz: Laslopantomik, speaking of a "group of groups", has anyone heard talk of (and do you think there'd be utility out of) working on a "progressive archipelago" w/ islands lilke EchoDitto, Progressive (here), Commonwealth, BetterWorld, Capitol Hill, etc.

12:21 Ruby Glitter: Sorry to get off-topic y'all. but seriously, check that video out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

12:21 Muskie Marquette: She's also in SL as Alfhild Briers, but I think she might kill me for saying that (she hates the attention she's getting)

12:22 Ruby Glitter: Understandble.

12:22 Ruby Glitter: BTW, as you all can probablt tell. we don't have much of an agenda for today's meetup. ;-)

12:22 Effulgent Brown: it would help if a lot of the progressive places were near each other

12:22 Muskie Marquette: Though that identity is eay to figure out (since we're organizing here we don't hide our identities)

12:23 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:23 Muskie Marquette: I'm not sure they need to be near each other but I do think a directoryu is necessary

12:23 Ruby Glitter: I agree, Muskie.

12:23 Muskie Marquette: With landmarks

12:23 Rik Riel: we could create a progressive spots HUD

12:23 Effulgent Brown: is there someplace on the mainland where people can get landmarks

12:23 Rik Riel: I could actually

12:23 Muskie Marquette: Perhaps even a HUD... gmta

12:23 Effulgent Brown: that would be the best thing

12:23 Ruby Glitter: I don't think it would hurt to be near each other, but I mostly just want a way to connect from one to teh other.

12:24 Rik Riel: I could make a draft one, and someone else could work on making a HUD giver device

12:24 Effulgent Brown: yeah, there was a winter tour hud that came out, its open source, with tweeking it could be perfect

12:24 Ruby Glitter: Cool!

12:24 Rik Riel: send me TPs of places that should be included, ya'lls

12:24 Ruby Glitter: errcheck had collected landmarks in a notecard

12:24 Ruby Glitter: You can start with his research.

12:25 Rik Riel: k

12:25 Old McDunnough: I'll read the chat transcript later (thanks for posting those, Ruby). I've got to go.

12:25 Muskie Marquette: The problem with trying to be near each other is that this is a big place, land does not necessarily conveniently exist next to each other, and I am sure there are preexisting groups we still dont know about

12:25 Rik Riel: ciao Old

12:25 Drew Frobozz: the other useful thing about co-locating though is the ability to host larger events...

12:25 Rik Riel: ah

12:25 Effulgent Brown: yeah moving around is really tough these days

12:25 Drew Frobozz: and certainly many of our events will be of overlapping interest...

12:25 Ruby Glitter: Muskie, raises a good point: the progressive community will grow. We can't just keep reorganizing islands.

12:25 Effulgent Brown: a hub, or a hud would really help

12:25 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:25 Ruby Glitter: Then again, those of you who OWN islands can figure out what serves your needs best.

12:26 Effulgent Brown: it would be neat to own an island but they charge a fee to move them i think

12:26 Drew Frobozz: True.

12:26 Rik Riel: we can pursue both tracks: creating a HUD and getting islands to cooperate better

12:26 Drew Frobozz: I'd love to colocate progressive, for what that's worth...

12:27 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:27 Drew Frobozz: and put a web-based listing of SLURL's on RootsCampSL.org of course

12:27 Drew Frobozz: I should mention that I'm also organizing a major major build for the YearlyKos convention that will probably bring at least 8 additional sims to the Progressive party in SL on a permenant basis.

12:27 Effulgent Brown: it would be nice for people to be able to save home to a spot that has a hub and posts of what is going on

12:27 Effulgent Brown: cool

12:27 Rik Riel: WOOT!!!!!

12:28 Drew Frobozz: so getting 500+ avatars to events w/ Class 5 servers is looking possible

12:28 Effulgent Brown: wow

12:28 Effulgent Brown: that will be amazin

12:28 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

12:28 Drew Frobozz: and the biggest Meetup meetings in 2004 rarely ever had more than 150 people in one location at any one time...

12:29 Drew Frobozz: anyway the initial YearlyKos info and registration booth and volunteer team meeting space will soon be our neighbor here, so we'll see the action as it happens :)

12:29 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

12:30 Effulgent Brown: it was fun when they did the rl convention this one is gonna be fun heheh

12:30 Effulgent Brown: since a lot of people are web based its like getting to meet with and talk to the people who write

12:31 Drew Frobozz: we're targeting the 2008 convention to be BIGGER than the real-life convention :)

12:31 Effulgent Brown: hehehe more people can come yay!

12:31 Drew Frobozz: and more content-- we'll have panels that coudn't fit in the Chicago convention center happening in SL only

12:32 Ruby Glitter: Well let us know when we can tie in a support that as RootsCamp, Drew.

12:32 Drew Frobozz: it'll be a major effort of course, fraught with peril and fun, so yes yes yes please dive in! :)

12:32 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:32 Drew Frobozz: It's all volunteer of course, in true netroots spirit

12:33 Drew Frobozz: but we have professional SL devs donating massive amounts of time, so plenty of room for those of us less skilled like myself to make meaningful contributions too

12:33 Ruby Glitter: Cool. Any other updates from you, Drew? We haven't seen you in so long. ;-)

12:33 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:33 Drew Frobozz: yeah sorry about that-- no real excuses other than Mexican weddings and the like

12:34 Ruby Glitter: weddings are a good excuse for missing everything else. ;-)

12:34 Drew Frobozz: was so great to track the flurry of the event though-- you did such a tremendous job

12:34 Drew Frobozz: and I do think it was a major landmark

12:34 Drew Frobozz: event

12:34 Ruby Glitter: Thanks!

12:34 Ruby Glitter: It was quite a whirlwind.

12:34 Drew Frobozz: and stepping stone for bigger ones in the future

12:34 Ruby Glitter: Lots of work and lots of fun. very rewarding.

12:34 Ruby Glitter: Which leads to my next topic...

12:35 Laslopantomik Yao: Have you got a video of the event?

12:35 Ruby Glitter: Rik, amde a machinima.

12:35 Ruby Glitter: I'l grab the link.

12:35 Rik Riel: ... funny you should mention it...

12:35 Rik Riel: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5105316486771142892

12:35 Ruby Glitter: There you go.

12:35 Muskie Marquette: I have wondered: given that they've conveniently given us a Capitol to demonstrate at, is a daily antiwar vigil (much smaller obviously, but ongoing) possible?

12:36 Ruby Glitter: So one thing Rik was wondering was whether we shoudl work on a longer video.

12:36 Laslopantomik Yao: thanks

12:36 Ruby Glitter: There's more footage that he didn't have when he made that version.

12:37 Ruby Glitter: Muskie, someone else suggested that as well. I personalyl don't think we have the support to sustain a daily thing, but something regulara nd on-going would be good.

12:37 Rik Riel: The question is what purpose would be served by having a longer version?

12:37 Ruby Glitter: what do others think?

12:37 Laslopantomik Yao: I am looking it now.

12:38 Ruby Glitter: i think a longer vodeo might make the case for SL as a vebue for effective advocacy, which night draw more activists in.

12:39 Rik Riel: so you are thinking of a longer promotional piece?

12:39 Ruby Glitter: Maybe someone else could edit it, since Rik has already given a lot of time to this.

12:39 Effulgent Brown: im looking at it now, its amazing the way it is

12:39 Ruby Glitter: Well I sort of want to "explain" what advocacy in SL even is.

12:39 Rik Riel: ok, sounds interesting

12:40 Rik Riel: I'm open to ideas about the overarching narrative

12:41 Laslopantomik Yao: Its great, longer better for me..

12:41 Effulgent Brown: im thinking that what we could say is that no matter where people are, or what they are doing, they are becoming aware and no matter what impact it makes people want to make their voices heard

12:41 Ruby Glitter: right.

12:41 Rik Riel: that;s good

12:42 Ruby Glitter: it's about the power of bringing people together.. making more than ourselves.

12:42 Effulgent Brown: even if somebody says it doesnt matter, we did it anyway, because it doesnt have to matter to them, it matters to us

12:42 Laslopantomik Yao: It could content RL war consequences, like flashbacks.

12:42 Rik Riel: Id love it if people could record short MP3s of what they wanted to express and I could splice them into the video

12:42 Ruby Glitter: exactly. it empowers us to work together.

12:42 Drew Frobozz: and it's possible to gather critical mass of people around smaller niche issues and more often.

12:42 Ruby Glitter: cool idea!

12:42 Effulgent Brown: that would be really great

12:43 Rik Riel: That would show a human side to the effort

12:43 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:43 Drew Frobozz: heretofore you've needed critical mass of people all in the same geography at the same time all caring about the same issue enough to turn out and demonstrate

12:43 Rik Riel: something combining real names / locations with avatars

12:43 Effulgent Brown: i think if people in sl gathered in small numbers more, then big numbers would not be such a hard thing after that

12:44 Drew Frobozz: I'd love to make the Meetup analogy and could grab some video perhaps of the Meetup venue for all the NY for Clark organizing I did in 2003 here in New York if appropriate to underscore the point.

12:44 Drew Frobozz: or at least stills (.jpg)

12:45 Rik Riel: sure. I can do a crossfade from a RW event to a virtual one

12:46 Effulgent Brown: that video was a good lenght, people have such short attention spans these days :P

12:46 Rik Riel: I hear ya

12:46 Jaz Flossberg: I agree with Effulgent

12:46 Effulgent Brown: 4 minutes would kill em

12:46 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:46 Jaz Flossberg: That was a nice piece Rik

12:47 Effulgent Brown: yeah, music and movement

12:47 Laslopantomik Yao: I agree to. Maybe an extended version link..

12:47 Rik Riel: unfortunately a bunch of people waving signs is not great video

12:47 Drew Frobozz: perhaps two videos

12:47 Effulgent Brown: if someone is really intrested there could be a longer one

12:47 Drew Frobozz: one re: the event

12:47 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:47 Drew Frobozz: and one re: advocacy actions in SL

12:47 Drew Frobozz: that highlights the event as case study #1

12:48 Effulgent Brown: two would be good, the short one is good for people who are new to this whole thing

12:48 Rik Riel: let me put together a mockup of it and come back to you

12:48 Jaz Flossberg: Shouldn't there be an interview format in which we can explain our cause

12:48 Rik Riel: drop me any more suggestions you have

12:48 Drew Frobozz: then we'll disseminate to all our friends running non-profits and Presidential campaigns that aren't yet here! ;)

12:49 Rik Riel: I prefer the series of different voices expressing their interests and desires

12:49 Rik Riel: the fallback would be one narrative read by one person

12:50 Ruby Glitter: would you liek us to make video clips of ourselves RL in addition to the audio?

12:50 Ruby Glitter: or would that distract from the SL visuals?

12:50 Rik Riel: hmmmmm

12:50 Rik Riel: it might distract

12:50 Ruby Glitter: Yeah, probably so.

12:50 Rik Riel: and there woudl be a great variety of video quality

12:50 Ruby Glitter: yeah.

12:50 Ruby Glitter: time check: we only have 10 minutes until 1.

12:51 Laslopantomik Yao: Look, here in spain they are talking a lot of SL in press, radio and tv. A super video has to go to the tvnews. Afterwards it could travel again to US.

12:51 Rik Riel: good to know, Laslo

12:51 Rik Riel: we could subtitle the video en espanol

12:51 Ruby Glitter: Si

12:52 Effulgent Brown: voices would be good though, expressing your views probably im not sure because there is no voice in sl yet

12:52 Rik Riel: ruby volunteers to do that

12:52 Ruby Glitter: I do? ;-)

12:52 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:52 Ruby Glitter: You mean to do teh talking part? No prob.

12:52 Ruby Glitter: I shoudl talk about the event?

12:52 Laslopantomik Yao: Its not so dificult. We have to send it to Cadena SER and they maybe take it to Cuatro TV group. They are progresive media.

12:53 Muskie Marquette: 2

12:53 Rik Riel: Let's not lose focus. This initial effort is targeted at the US elections and organizers around that.

12:53 Ruby Glitter: Before we run out of time, I just want to note that there have been a lot of suggestions of on-going protests, but we haven't discussed actually organizing anything.

12:53 Rik Riel: We want to connect with progressives around the world, for sure.

12:54 Muskie Marquette: ugh... sorry... kvm switch screwup here

12:54 Rik Riel: I for one am unclear on the point of ongoing protests

12:54 Ruby Glitter: so homework for next week: bring creative ideas for weekly/monthly/? events?

12:54 Ruby Glitter: I am too, it's open for the group to figure out.

12:54 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:55 Jaz Flossberg: Could we organize a "write your congressmen" campaign?

12:55 Ruby Glitter: Maybe we don't want to get into the committment, I don't know.

12:55 Effulgent Brown: that could word

12:55 Effulgent Brown: work

12:55 Jaz Flossberg: Right now that is where the action is

12:55 Effulgent Brown: or get each progressive candidate and have all their stances laid out side by side

12:55 Ruby Glitter: no, but maybe a wite your Congressperson or Representative.

12:55 Jaz Flossberg: Yes

12:55 Ruby Glitter: (ie: not "congressmen")

12:56 Effulgent Brown: so people can see what they stand for, and if they change it

12:56 Rik Riel: word, Ruby.

12:56 Jaz Flossberg: We could put together a sample letter with proper salutation, etc.

12:56 Ruby Glitter: True, but can't people get info about Congress online?

12:56 Ruby Glitter: What is unique to SL about doing that?

12:57 Jaz Flossberg: well you are correct there

12:57 Ruby Glitter: What can we do here that can't be done dia e-mail and web?

12:57 Effulgent Brown: would a congressmen come here to meet us?

12:57 Rik Riel: Could we make a dunking booth for the worst congressperson?

12:57 Effulgent Brown: that would be intresting, to invite them to a panel

12:57 Jaz Flossberg: Wow, that would be great

12:57 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:57 Ruby Glitter: That sounds fun.

12:57 Effulgent Brown: it would be neat to invite a bunch of them, and see who accepts

12:57 Effulgent Brown: even one would be an accomplishment

12:57 Rik Riel: could be a monthly "contest" for worst stateperson award

12:57 Ruby Glitter: I wouldn't count on many of them coming here.

12:58 Ruby Glitter: it's just too "weird" still.

12:58 Effulgent Brown: lol monthly, weekly hehehe

12:58 Ruby Glitter: Re. george Miller of Cali is in SL.

12:58 Effulgent Brown: oh

12:58 Ruby Glitter: Yeah, that also ties in to my questions about what to do w/ our space.

12:58 Jaz Flossberg: If we can't get a sitting congressmen, would you accept the loser of a recent race?

12:58 Effulgent Brown: ive seen john edwards stuff here

12:59 Effulgent Brown: sure, losers try harder

12:59 Jaz Flossberg: haha

12:59 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:59 Ruby Glitter: it would be fun to have a game where folks can come and learn about issues, or dunk the "bad guys"

12:59 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:59 Effulgent Brown: yeah, making things fun went so well during the last event

12:59 Jaz Flossberg: I'm thinking of an Illinois candate who lost-she was a war hero-lost her legs

12:59 Ruby Glitter: As someone who has run for elected office and lost, I don't think it would be helpful to have losers here.

12:59 Effulgent Brown: the dancing

12:59 Jaz Flossberg: Very progressive

12:59 Rik Riel: Someone needs to make a bush avatar give a fake press conference

12:59 Effulgent Brown: yeah i know

12:59 Effulgent Brown: Tammy Duckworth

12:59 Ruby Glitter: But leaders are leaders.

13:00 Jaz Flossberg: yes

13:00 Jaz Flossberg: Tammy Duckworth

13:00 Ruby Glitter: having lost doens't give you status, but you might be a community leader anyway

13:00 Drew Frobozz: Sorry to interrup folks, but quickly since I have to go soon-- my only other updates are that the model United Nations will join us here soon as a neighbor, as well as YearlyKos, and possibly the International Fund for Animal Welfare.

13:00 Jaz Flossberg: Great

13:00 Rik Riel: I'm involved with the Model UN folks

13:00 Ruby Glitter: Any chance we can get the adjacent plot back, Drew?

13:00 Effulgent Brown: yeah tammy was good on a lot of issues, i remember the commercials went extremely negative at the end

13:00 Ruby Glitter: I thought we were going to be able ot leav ethe peace posters up for a while.

13:00 Jaz Flossberg: Hope you do a better job than the RL group

13:01 Drew Frobozz: Great! :) See you here at the meeting Saturday Rik?

13:01 Drew Frobozz: goal is to put the RL UN out of business...

13:01 Drew Frobozz: ok just kidding

13:01 Jaz Flossberg: haha

13:01 Effulgent Brown: lol

13:01 Rik Riel: I think

13:01 Drew Frobozz: sorry re: posters Nobody is getting pretty adamant about having our stuff limited to our 1024m2, though I can pitch for more space if we really need it

13:02 Ruby Glitter: Well it doesn't seem to be in use for anything else right now. I know you have other stuff planned for the future.

13:02 Drew Frobozz: I have to run though-- IM me w/ other questions? I'll be in world... Congrats again on such amazing work on the march!!! :)

13:02 Ruby Glitter: OK bye Drew!

13:02 Rik Riel: you were missed drew

13:02 Drew Frobozz: yeah something about keeping a tidy ship, but...

13:02 Jaz Flossberg: By drew

13:02 Ruby Glitter: Good to see you.

13:02 Effulgent Brown: we'll stretch the prims for now

13:02 Effulgent Brown: hehehe

13:02 Drew Frobozz: let's just handle space requests by email so we're all in the same communication loop w/ him

13:02 Effulgent Brown: great seeing you drew

13:03 Drew Frobozz: and if we really need more space permenantly I can work on it

13:03 Drew Frobozz: you too! :)

13:03 Drew Frobozz: ciao