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3/1/07 chat log

11:57 Jimbo Hoyer: Afternoon. Got the time right this time.

11:57 Jimbo Hoyer: HI

11:57 Ruby Glitter: Howy!

11:57 Ruby Glitter: I'm trying to Tp someone, one sec.

11:58 Jimbo Hoyer: Chat?

11:58 errcheck Hicks: Sorry about that notecard, fogto to edit it

11:58 Ruby Glitter: So sorry I coldn't come last week!

11:58 Ruby Glitter: ¡Hola. Jose!

11:59 Ruby Glitter: Where did Jimbo go?

11:59 Ruby Glitter: Hey Drew.

11:59 errcheck Hicks: Hi Drew

11:59 Drew Frobozz: hey folks!

11:59 No room to sit here, try another spot.

11:59 There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot.

11:59 Ruby Glitter: these sofas hat eme.

12:00 Ruby Glitter: er, hate me.

12:00 Jose Rote: I had to try a couple times too

12:00 Ruby Glitter: There we go.

12:00 Ruby Glitter: Jose I heard you got griefed! :-(

12:00 Jose Rote: I don't think they have a formal sit target

12:00 Jose Rote: :), let's not talk about it, the griefing wasn't so bad, at least we got more press

12:01 Ruby Glitter: That was what i thoguth too: media hit. ;-)

12:01 Jose Rote: what was worse, was the horrible advice the Lindens gave me to deal with it

12:01 Jose Rote: the Lindens inspired me to delete half the site, took me 2 hours to repair

12:01 Ruby Glitter: Oh no!

12:02 Ruby Glitter: that's so ridiculous.

12:02 Jose Rote: yeah, I am still angry, so maybe I shouldn't talk about it yet :)

12:02 Ruby Glitter: Fair enough...

12:02 Ruby Glitter: So what's on agenda today, folks?

12:02 Ruby Glitter: We need to talk about Rik's video.

12:03 Drew Frobozz: and if Jimbo comes back he can give a YearlyKos update.

12:03 errcheck Hicks: I am working on a Poster Exhibit

12:03 Drew Frobozz: hey Jimbo!

12:03 Jimbo Hoyer: Sorry Crashed twice

12:04 Jimbo Hoyer: YKSL update

12:04 Ruby Glitter: OK.

12:04 Ruby Glitter: I do want to do a candidates-in-SL run down too.

12:04 Jimbo Hoyer: We're looking to launch next week

12:05 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

12:05 Ruby Glitter: What will the launch entail?

12:05 Jimbo Hoyer: with a registration booth and content on YK website

12:05 Jose Rote: Yearly Kos will launch in Second Life?

12:05 Jimbo Hoyer: No, we're waiting on SIM deivery for the full launch

12:05 Jose Rote: SIM delivery?

12:05 Jimbo Hoyer: the registration area is here on progressive island and is under development

12:06 errcheck Hicks: Hi Effulgent

12:06 Effulgent Brown: hiya

12:06 Ruby Glitter: Hey Effulgent!

12:06 Jimbo Hoyer: Andrew just got word that our first 4 SIM block should be available in a couple of weeks

12:06 Effulgent Brown: hiya ruby

12:06 Effulgent Brown: sorry im late yall, new sim, yay :)

12:06 Dire Lobo: Hey, i was in the neighborhood.

12:06 Jimbo Hoyer: At that time we'll start full bore site development

12:07 Jimbo Hoyer: Dire Lobo, do wanna discuss what the space will look like?

12:07 Ruby Glitter: Hi Dire. I read an interview with you on techpresident.com today.

12:07 Dire Lobo: Hi Ruby. That would have been Raven's doing.

12:07 Dire Lobo: I didn't realize he would just re-print the chat log or I would have tried to be more succinct.

12:07 Jimbo Hoyer: Or should I go on and let you correct me when I get detials wrong

12:08 Effulgent Brown: the building looks awesome, looks just like the venue in rl

12:08 Dire Lobo: Don't let me interrupt Jimbo.

12:08 Dire Lobo: That's Eff - can I call you Eff for short?

12:08 Effulgent Brown: sure

12:08 Dire Lobo: Thanks Eff - I meant to say!

12:08 Jimbo Hoyer: We've defined what we're calling a KosBlock of 4 sims

12:08 Jimbo Hoyer: At the center, sharing the corners is the main auditorium

12:08 Effulgent Brown: hehehe sounds cute

12:08 synch Slade: hey all

12:08 Jimbo Hoyer: That's where the presidential panel would be

12:08 synch Slade: i'm knew here

12:09 synch Slade: but I have to go to a meeting at my job

12:09 synch Slade: is there a way I can get a transcript of this meeting

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Welceom synch.

12:09 Jimbo Hoyer: In SL, participants will IM questions to a panel moderator

12:09 Drew Frobozz: yes we'll post the log

12:09 Ruby Glitter: All the transcripst are posted on rootscampsl.org

12:09 synch Slade: thanks much

12:09 synch Slade: take care

12:09 Jimbo Hoyer: so that they can participate as if they were there

12:09 Drew Frobozz: first, can everyone say "yes" to chatlog?

12:09 Effulgent Brown: yes?

12:09 errcheck Hicks: yes to chatlog

12:09 Ruby Glitter: Sí.

12:09 Effulgent Brown: hehehe yes chatlog

12:10 Jimbo Hoyer: yes

12:11 Ruby Glitter: Was that the end of the yearly Kos update?

12:11 Jimbo Hoyer: No.

12:11 Ruby Glitter: Does Markos use SL?

12:11 Jimbo Hoyer: The last couple of things we have to do

12:12 Jimbo Hoyer: is put together a pair of videos

12:12 Drew Frobozz: Markos-- not yet

12:12 Jose Rote: yes to chatlog

12:12 Jimbo Hoyer: one on the web site, with a gina cooper avatar discussion SL and YKSL

12:12 Drew Frobozz: we'd love to use footage from Rik's upcoming SL for politics video

12:12 Drew Frobozz: if he's willing

12:12 Jimbo Hoyer: and one of me in 2L

12:12 Dire Lobo: Drew, can you address the question of Markos - what are the chances of getting him to appear in SL and be interviewed by Jimbo as a promo for YK in SL?

12:12 Jimbo Hoyer: SL

12:12 Dire Lobo: Any chance at all in the coming months?

12:13 Drew Frobozz: I'm sure it will happen eventually, but we're launching with Gina not Markos as the "Kos" avatar representative

12:13 Dire Lobo: I understand - I am looking ahead past that.

12:13 Jimbo Hoyer: One of the things we're looking for is content like this

12:13 Drew Frobozz: he hasn't committed yet, but my guess is he will

12:14 Jimbo Hoyer: Pre-convention Inworld content that will promote the event

12:14 Jimbo Hoyer: and take advantage of the real estate we're acquiring in advance of YKSL

12:14 Jimbo Hoyer: So we're looking for ideas. the more the merrier, for pre-YKCHI content inworld

12:15 Effulgent Brown: having a place for people to come, save home to and then familiarize themselves with this platform is good

12:15 Ruby Glitter: Welcome, Arc. Please have a seat.

12:15 Jimbo Hoyer: Yeah, we're worried about newbies, and some preconvention content will help with that

12:15 Effulgent Brown: that will be probably the best thing to do for people coming here for the first time

12:16 errcheck Hicks: I suggest regular concerts

12:16 Effulgent Brown: yeah, a package is good

12:16 Dire Lobo: As part of the YKSL registration process, they MUST come to that building to register. We will give them landmarks and notecards and there will be links to the YKOS sim once it is in place.

12:16 Jimbo Hoyer: Yeah, eff, I like the concert idea

12:16 errcheck Hicks: Cool Schwag

12:17 Effulgent Brown: notecards may not be enough

12:17 errcheck Hicks: T-shirts are not enough

12:17 Dire Lobo: Avatars who register will get a swag bag - virtual t-shirt, poster- we can include other stuff as well, but the timing is short.

12:17 Dire Lobo: Ideas for registration swag content?

12:18 Effulgent Brown: that sounds good

12:18 errcheck Hicks: RSS feed from dailykos?

12:18 Dire Lobo: Err - you mean an RSS display device linked to DKOS feed.

12:18 Dire Lobo: Yes?

12:18 Jose Rote: what does "registration" entail?

12:18 Dire Lobo: We will have something like that at YearlyKos in SL - I don't have one now, do you?

12:19 errcheck Hicks: YES

12:19 Jimbo Hoyer: registration is donating 25 dollars and getting to attend the conf

12:19 Dire Lobo: Cool - drop me one (with copy permissions) and I will add it to the gift bag!

12:19 errcheck Hicks: It could be a HUD or maybe a prim

12:19 Jose Rote: I see

12:19 errcheck Hicks: It needs engineering, because I am not happy with the ones I have seen

12:20 Dire Lobo: We are planning to do a YKos HUD as well - mostly geared to helping people find rooms where events are - a kind of schedule combined with a map of the space.

12:20 Jimbo Hoyer: I didn't know we were admitting that publicly yet.

12:20 Dire Lobo: Since we are going live with registration - and I don't have time to work on the RSS viewer this week - we will have to distribute it later.

12:21 errcheck Hicks: Very good, maybe tabs to the feed(s)

12:21 Jimbo Hoyer: There will be rolling swag throughout the registration period, I think

12:21 Dire Lobo: We will have a database of everyone registered. We can automatically send to the entire list any virtual object at any time in the future.

12:21 Dire Lobo: > Jimbo Hoyer: I didn't know we were admitting that publicly yet.

12:21 Dire Lobo: Sorry, what was that Jimbo?

12:22 Jimbo Hoyer: Not important

12:22 Jose Rote: who did you get to develop the project

12:22 Jose Rote: ?

12:22 Drew Frobozz: Jimbo and Dire are the lead developers

12:22 Ruby Glitter: is the SL registration free?

12:23 Drew Frobozz: their firm, InWorld Studios is donating all the work

12:23 Ruby Glitter: o sorry you said $25.

12:23 Jimbo Hoyer: No . 25 dollars to attend

12:23 Jose Rote: oh, can you share the script that allows you to automate inventory transfers?

12:23 Drew Frobozz: I'm on the Convention Organizing committee and Board of Directors and together we make up the core YKSL team.

12:23 Dire Lobo: Just like YKOS in Chicago, we offer 3 levels of registration, $25 being the base leve, higher levels

12:23 Effulgent Brown: for the kos convention 25L ?

12:23 Dire Lobo: are optional and are $50 and $75.

12:23 Ruby Glitter: no US$.

12:23 Drew Frobozz: seriously huge and generous volunteer committment that InWorld is making

12:23 Jimbo Hoyer: Ruby--the goal is to cover hard costs

12:24 Effulgent Brown: oh ok

12:24 Ruby Glitter: whatd o you get for additional money?

12:24 Jimbo Hoyer: Streaming bandwidth, SIMs

12:24 Jimbo Hoyer: nothing for the additional money

12:24 Ruby Glitter: so it;'s just sliding scale?

12:24 Jimbo Hoyer: it follows the YKos general model that if you can afford to donate more, you should

12:24 Ruby Glitter: I see. how much does it cost in RL?

12:24 Jimbo Hoyer: But that everyone is treated equally

12:25 Jimbo Hoyer: 245 now

12:25 Jimbo Hoyer: It was cheaper before Feb 1

12:25 Jimbo Hoyer: We really (and I especially) see this as a way to be there when we can't otherwise be there

12:25 Dire Lobo: Just like with YKOS in the real world - its $225, $300, $450 and $600 - they added a fourth level when I wasn't looking.

12:25 Dire Lobo: http://www.yearlykosconvention.com/register

12:26 Jimbo Hoyer: I remember very clearly watching events on CSPAN wishing I could be in Vegas

12:26 Dire Lobo: Of course if you want to go to Chicago you'd better have another $1,000 for room and board.

12:26 Jimbo Hoyer: at least

12:26 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:27 Jimbo Hoyer: This also allows the converntion to offer more space for panel discussions

12:27 Dire Lobo: There are also donation boxes at the YKSL Reg Center, over there, though they are not complete, to allow people to donate additional amounts just like on the YKOS web site.

12:27 Jimbo Hoyer: And allows participants who aren't in Chicago

12:27 Dire Lobo: Jay, did mention what our capcity would be, etc.?

12:28 Dire Lobo: Er, Jimbo.

12:28 Jimbo Hoyer: I did not

12:28 Jimbo Hoyer: We're planning to cap capacity at 3 Kos bloks, 12 SIMs, 600 registrations

12:28 Angela Ge: apologies for being late.. just saw Drew's email and came in

12:28 Angela Ge smiles

12:29 Effulgent Brown: hiya angela

12:29 Angela Ge: hello Ms. Brown

12:29 Ruby Glitter: Welcome Angela.

12:29 Jimbo Hoyer: We're planning to cap capacity at 600 registrations

12:29 errcheck Hicks: Hi Angela

12:29 Angela Ge: thank you Ruby *smiles*

12:29 Ruby Glitter: It's almost 12:30 so let's wrap up the yKos section soon, OK?

12:30 Angela Ge: famulasit

12:30 Dire Lobo: Wow, Jimbo crashed. I have nothing else Ruby, w

12:30 Dire Lobo: unless any questions...

12:30 Drew Frobozz: hey Angela!

12:30 Angela Ge: :)

12:30 Drew Frobozz: put Angela on the agenda for an RCSL wiki update

12:30 Effulgent Brown: is there a group for the kos convention

12:30 Angela Ge: i figured why the wiki looks like rootscamp and not rootscampsl

12:30 Ruby Glitter: OK, before we move on, I realize we forgot to do introdcutions.

12:30 Angela Ge: my content migration tool had a typo in it

12:30 Effulgent Brown: something for people to join as soon as they log in to sl?

12:30 Drew Frobozz: YKSL07 is the group

12:30 Angela Ge grins

12:31 Effulgent Brown: will they know to search that? hmm

12:31 Ruby Glitter: Let's do a lighting round of introductions. For new folks, here's how it works: All at once (ie: now) please type some or all of the following, your name and affiliation in RL, your activism or affiliation in RL and SL. Please keep it all on one line for clear reading. Go!

12:31 Angela Ge: i will have that fixed by this afternoon, after the meeting... so it'll copy the structure off rootscampsl and downwards

12:31 Dire Lobo: Yes, Eff - we have another group called "YKSL Attendees" - the YKSL07 group is staff only, I believe.

12:31 Angela Ge smiles

12:31 Dire Lobo: A sign will announce that all registrees will be invited to the group.

12:31 Drew Frobozz: ah yes

12:31 Effulgent Brown: okie

12:32 Ruby Glitter: I am Ruby Sinreich, work as a network-centric advocacy consultant to progressive orgs at netcentriccampaigns.org and my personsl site is lotusmedia.org

12:32 Effulgent Brown: i think we need to make things as smooth as possible, they will be noobies, its rough being a baby here hehehe

12:32 Dire Lobo: I'm Jordan Bigel (www.inworldstudios.com) - I am not involved in any activism in RL except to argue with my conservative cousin.

12:32 Dire Lobo: We do SL projects for RL companies - promotions, etc.

12:33 Jimbo Hoyer: Sorry. Crapped out again

12:33 Angela Ge: angela Ge - rootscamp/angelheros/techsoup/betterworld island } RL - ange Embuldeniya - Global Voices Online & UN Disaster Aid Coordination / World Wide Help Group

12:33 Ruby Glitter: And a reminder to newcomers: this chat will be logged online.

12:33 errcheck Hicks: I am Eric Ahlberg, artist, activist, programmer, webmaster, musician, in Venice California

12:33 Angela Ge grins, "no worries".

12:33 Effulgent Brown: Im Kim Winnfield I blog and argue with my boyfriends dad

12:33 Arc Karski: I'm a malaria researcher who helped out with the Lamont campaign for Senate in CT

12:33 Jimbo Hoyer: I'm Jay Ackroyd. have little tiny blogs and comment heavily in the blogosphere

12:34 Dire Lobo: Hey, Errcheck - I live in Marina del Rey. We should get together...

12:34 Effulgent Brown: oh blog at Dadream Politics best blog ever

12:34 Ruby Glitter: DjBob?

12:34 Jose Rote: I am Jerimee Richir, I'm working with the Edwards campaign, the ONE campaign, and ACORN to bring progressive organization into Second Life

12:34 errcheck Hicks: Yes!

12:34 Jimbo Hoyer: ran the Crash the Gate action associated with FDL, and am active in the New York progressive community

12:34 Drew Frobozz: Andrew Hoppin-- I work for NASA helping them become more progressive and less bureaucratic (http://colab.arc.nasa.gov) and wear a bunch of part-time hats with CivicSpaceLabs.org, Trellon.com, Goodstorm.com, MoonFront.com, all of which I helped to start

12:34 Ruby Glitter: DjBob, please introduce yourself.

12:34 Angela Ge grins

12:35 Drew Frobozz: and started RootsCampSL with Ruby here

12:35 Effulgent Brown: yay

12:35 Ruby Glitter: Ok!

12:36 Ruby Glitter: the remaining items to discuss are: the wiki (Angela), the video (Rik), & if we have time: candidates in SL.

12:36 Ruby Glitter: seems liek the wiki topic already started, so let's continue. ;-)

12:36 Ruby Glitter: Angela, can you explain what you are doing?

12:37 Angela Ge: the wiki.. well my fault, i started copying wrong content due to a typo.. so it copied the wrong directory....but that will be fixed this afternoon, and the rootscampsl.pbwiki.com will have the right content copied over..

12:37 Ruby Glitter: so for background, you are moving our section o nthe rootscamp wiki, to our own wiki, right?

12:38 Jose Rote: I'm sorry, I haven't been to a meeting in a long time, can you tell me what the wiki is for?

12:38 Angela Ge: after content is migrated and updated.... i will work on hacking the css files to go with look, etc.

12:38 Effulgent Brown gave you Rootscamp Meeting.

12:38 Angela Ge: yes Ruby

12:38 Ruby Glitter: Good question!

12:38 Angela Ge: the right person to answer that is Drew

12:38 Angela Ge smiles

12:38 Ruby Glitter: Drew or Angela, can you askwer?

12:39 Angela Ge: i have my own background in this, but it would be unfair for Drew who took intiaitive before i came on.

12:39 Effulgent Brown: It was to help keep track of events, thats what i though

12:39 Effulgent Brown: thought

12:39 Ruby Glitter: Well, OK... The wiki is very helpful for spreading info about what we're doing.

12:39 Ruby Glitter: not every can be in SL all the time. ;-)

12:40 Ruby Glitter: For example, we compiled events around the peace protest, etc.

12:40 Drew Frobozz: oops sorry was afk briefly

12:40 Angela Ge: my take is that wiki is great to glue it in for info flow and brainstorming and the like.. and archiving, also great for collaborative participation and organization of the like

12:40 Angela Ge winks

12:40 Ruby Glitter: we arealso use it to post rtanscipts and to aggregate content from our tag: rootscampsl

12:40 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:41 Drew Frobozz: agreed-- two functions: 1) to spread the word about and the content from RCSL to a broader (Web) world, and 2) to help this group- active RCSL avatars self-organize.

12:41 Ruby Glitter: what he said.

12:41 Angela Ge: am not sure about other folks here.. but the wiki can be hooked with sl...

12:41 Angela Ge winks

12:42 Angela Ge: via rss feeds to show what's new on the wiki, etc. same for meeting notes etc.

12:42 Effulgent Brown: that sounds really good

12:42 Drew Frobozz: nice!

12:42 Jose Rote: does someone have a *perfected* rss feeder/reader they can share?

12:42 errcheck Hicks: We need a URL linker here someplace

12:43 Dire Lobo: You mean one that works in SL?

12:43 Jose Rote: yes

12:43 Jose Rote: one that works in world

12:43 Effulgent Brown: i dont think i have a good one, ill give you what i have

12:43 errcheck Hicks: It will just spawn a browser to the wiki

12:43 Angela Ge: oh no..

12:43 Jose Rote: thanks eff

12:43 Angela Ge: what i meant was grabing content from the wiki in world

12:43 Angela Ge smiles

12:43 Ruby Glitter: I have a simple URL linking script.

12:43 Dire Lobo: Well that's not an RSS reader!

12:43 errcheck Hicks: I have plenty scripts, will set up!

12:44 Ruby Glitter: yeah, that's somethign else.

12:44 errcheck Hicks: Yes,

12:44 Angela Ge: i have a rss board, that's what i meant.. so i export content from the wiki as rss into sss feeds for sl

12:44 Angela Ge grins

12:44 Angela Ge: each article on the wiki would have its unique rss feed.

12:45 Angela Ge: and then there's be, newly updated items, etc.

12:45 errcheck Hicks: Maybe put it out across the way to look at

12:45 Angela Ge: but those are nice to have's after the basic shuffling of feet is done

12:45 Angela Ge grins

12:45 Ruby Glitter: that woudl be great, but i have't seen apublic tool to do it.

12:46 Angela Ge: have some open source code with me, happy to build it and release it into public domain

12:46 Angela Ge smiles

12:46 errcheck Hicks: The SLNN RSS reader is good, but I couldn't get anthing but their feeds on it

12:46 Angela Ge: thats because they made it no mod..

12:46 Angela Ge: and its closed source i think...

12:46 Dire Lobo: Angela - what sort of code do you have for an RSS reader? Not LSL

12:46 Jose Rote: am developing a group console tool, that displays basic info about a group, and how to join etc, I will share it with the group, if others are willing to share their tools as well

12:47 Angela Ge: apparently i cant create objectsere

12:47 Angela Ge: lsl.. + php

12:47 errcheck Hicks: They have a website to program it, but I could only get boingboing to work

12:47 Ruby Glitter: does pbwiki generate an RSS feed? if so of what?

12:47 Angela Ge: yes pbwiki generates a rss feed,

12:47 Ruby Glitter: maybe we shoudl start a blog instead of a wiki.

12:47 Angela Ge: just need to enable it

12:47 Ruby Glitter: what is in it, new info or changes, too.

12:47 Angela Ge: how about rootscampsl.wordpress.com

12:47 Ruby Glitter: can you make a change and have it not show up in the feed?

12:48 Angela Ge: both Ruby and if i hack the php files i can enable each article come auto with its own feed and other things like stats, etc.

12:48 Ruby Glitter: Hm, cool.

12:48 Angela Ge: can make change and have it not show up in the feed if you wanted, yes

12:48 Ruby Glitter: what do others think? should we do a blog?

12:48 Jose Rote: can't you rss wiki content?

12:49 Angela Ge: if you have access to your own server or hosting space and its linux which i think it is, the do something like rootscampsl.org/blog

12:49 Jose Rote: I prefer wiki in general, it has more functionality (doesn't it?)

12:49 Angela Ge: have it as a wp install and then tie it into bloghud here

12:49 Drew Frobozz: my kingdom for the perfect blog/wiki hybrid...

12:49 Angela Ge: well im coming from blog wiki land and they both have their purposes

12:49 Angela Ge grins

12:49 errcheck Hicks: Yeah blogs get linear, and wikis can be multilinked better

12:49 Angela Ge: for example.. this -- tsunamihelp.blogspot.com

12:50 Angela Ge: was turned into tsunamihelp.info

12:50 Ruby Glitter: I think blogs re better for freuent updates and seeing what is new, wiki btter for builkdign a knowledge base

12:50 Ruby Glitter: sorry, bad typing.

12:50 Angela Ge: and this morning after looking at out various disaster relief blogs and wikis like katrinahelp.info and quakehelp.blogspot.com i started working on a project to merge both into wiki.worldwidehelp.info which is still in progress..

12:50 errcheck Hicks: that looks good

12:50 Effulgent Brown: yeah,

12:51 Angela Ge smiles

12:51 Angela Ge: thanks!

12:51 Angela Ge: it was group effort during the days :)

12:52 Dire Lobo: FYI - when chatting, if you put the http: in front of a web URL it becomes a hyperlink like this - http://http://tsunamihelp.blogspot.com/

12:52 Angela Ge knows

12:52 Dire Lobo: Then you can open History and click right on it...

12:52 Dire Lobo: Sorry if everyone knows this already.

12:52 Angela Ge: just likes to make people copy and paste

12:52 Angela Ge grins

12:52 Angela Ge: annoyance is nice too, sometimes..

12:52 Dire Lobo: Oops, I double http'd it...

12:52 Angela Ge: so what's Rik doing with video?

12:52 Ruby Glitter: Good question.

12:52 Effulgent Brown: lol

12:53 Ruby Glitter: Are we done w/ the wiki topic?

12:53 Angela Ge looks around

12:53 Angela Ge: ... wondering..

12:53 Ruby Glitter: Guess so.

12:54 Ruby Glitter: Rik sent a request for Drew and me to review. he wants ot onvite member sof our groupt record audio to contribute.

12:54 Ruby Glitter: I have the request here, bit it's too long ot paste into chat I'm afraid.

12:54 Effulgent Brown: the grid is a little more stable now so work will be easier

12:54 Ruby Glitter: Rik Riel have volunteered to prepare a five minute outreach video for the NetRoots group to help spread the message about the importance of using virtual tools for real world political change. Rik needs your help though to make this happen. We will need several folks to provide short soundbites expressing their own personal views on political action and Second Life. Ideally the quote would contain something about your real world political activities, and your interest in SL political action. The quote might be something like: "Hi. I'm a civil rights activist in El Paso, Texas, working for the humane immigration laws and just treatment of immigrants, legal and illegal. I think that Second Life is a great tool for promoting inter-cultural understanding and respect for human rights." -- Thomas K, El Paso, Texas / VidaJusta Babcock in Second Life If you would like to participate, please contact Rik Riel via IM or email rik@rikomatic.com. You will need to

12:55 Ruby Glitter: wow that illegible. Let me post one paragraph at a time:

12:55 Ruby Glitter: Rik Riel has volunteered to prepare a five minute outreach video for the NetRoots group to help spread the message about the importance of using virtual tools for real world political change. Rik needs your help though to make this happen. We will need several folks to provide short soundbites expressing their own personal views on political action and Second Life. Ideally the quote would contain something about your real world political activities, and your interest in SL political action. The quote might be something like:

12:55 errcheck Hicks: that was OK

12:55 Ruby Glitter: "Hi. I'm a civil rights activist in El Paso, Texas, working for the humane immigration laws and just treatment of immigrants, legal and illegal. I think that Second Life is a great tool for promoting inter-cultural understanding and respect for human rights." -- Thomas K, El Paso, Texas / VidaJusta Babcock in Second Life

12:55 Effulgent Brown: that looks nice

12:55 Ruby Glitter: If you would like to participate, please contact Rik Riel via IM or email rik@rikomatic.com. You will need to be able to record your voice onto MP3 and send a decent resolution picture of your avatar's face. We need at least 4-6 residents to participate to make this happen. Thanks for your assistance. Be in touch with Rik Riel if you have questions or concerns.

12:55 Ruby Glitter: That's it.

12:55 Ruby Glitter: We think it's good, so I will send it to the group shortly.

12:56 Ruby Glitter: Some of you all who are here ahve been very involved. I hope you can contribute something.

12:56 Ruby Glitter: Any suggestions?

12:56 Effulgent Brown: it would be good to have that message in other places too

12:57 Ruby Glitter: Like on the wiki? ;-)

12:57 Effulgent Brown: i wish the welcome areas were better

12:57 Effulgent Brown: yeah wiki is the best place

12:57 Ruby Glitter: sorry, i don't follow.

12:57 Angela Ge: here's an idea...

12:57 Ruby Glitter: yes?

12:57 Angela Ge: how good is rootscamp relationship with sl/LL community managers

12:57 Angela Ge: ?

12:58 Effulgent Brown: i mean it would be nice if the welcome areas would have places for people to post events

12:58 Angela Ge: because.. we could have those going up at ahern..

12:58 Effulgent Brown: yeah

12:58 Angela Ge: and various other non profit and educational areas..

12:58 Angela Ge: can talk to community center folk at ll.. but i dont have much insight into how you folks work

12:58 Angela Ge grins

12:59 Ruby Glitter: what kind of evemts? i'm confused.

12:59 Angela Ge: also.. this could go on reuters displays, if one of you were willing to write a release forit and drop it into adam's inbox..

12:59 Angela Ge: events as in rootscamp events?

12:59 Effulgent Brown: like the Kos event, i think people would be intrested if they knew it was going on

13:00 Ruby Glitter: Ah, yes.

13:00 Angela Ge: oh you mean event calendars and notice boards..

13:00 Angela Ge smiles

13:00 Effulgent Brown: yeah

13:00 Ruby Glitter: I think it's helpful to focus on trageting progressivces both in Sl and RL.

13:00 Effulgent Brown: the welcome areas are sorta barren, its like "welcome" but not "here are things to do"

13:00 Ruby Glitter: we don't really want to broadcast stuff to everyone, we are liekly to get republican trolls, and we have already attracted a nationalist in SL.

13:00 Angela Ge: rootscampsl, is this open to military folks to participate in overseas just wondering?

13:01 Ruby Glitter: of course.

13:01 Ruby Glitter: it's open to any progressive anywhere in the world.

13:01 Angela Ge: cool!@ well i had no idea.. ill walk thru my friends here with it.

13:01 Effulgent Brown: we need our own welcome area

13:01 Ruby Glitter: if they can get access.

13:01 Dire Lobo: As for the YKOS in SL, we plan to begin a campaign to spread the word both within SL and to draw people into SL for YKOS in SL.

13:01 Angela Ge: sure they can get access

13:01 Ruby Glitter: i hear the military wont let service peopel read dKos.

13:01 Drew Frobozz: wow

13:02 Angela Ge: there's a map on this page.. which shows you how the various bases access the net

13:02 Angela Ge winks

13:02 Angela Ge: http://www.satellite-provider.pl/nss-6.html

13:02 Drew Frobozz: I have to go to my NASA meeting folks

13:02 Drew Frobozz: will be inworld and on IM but not here

13:02 Angela Ge: well in the mideast region anyways..

13:02 Effulgent Brown: ugh, watching fox is like torture

13:02 Drew Frobozz: looking forward to reading the rest of the transcript! :)

13:02 errcheck Hicks: Thanks Drew

13:02 Ruby Glitter: It's about time to wrap up anyway.

13:02 Ruby Glitter: Any last announcements?

13:02 Effulgent Brown: i think we need our own welcome area

13:03 Ruby Glitter: Jose are you doing anythign new with Edwards?

13:03 errcheck Hicks: I'm setting up a political poster exhibit, wll be all over SL

13:03 Angela Ge: own welcome area? like ahern?

13:03 Angela Ge: with greeters and the sorts?

13:03 Effulgent Brown: yeah

13:03 Angela Ge: DIY tutorials and walk throughs?

13:03 synch Slade: btw, i found out about this via local newspaper in maine

13:03 Effulgent Brown: greeters would be nice

13:03 synch Slade: so word is getting out, if that's what you'd like

13:03 Effulgent Brown: but even if people just poof in here that would be better than ahern

13:03 Angela Ge: do you have funding for greeters or would that be voluntary?

13:03 Jose Rote: nothing new with Edwards, I need to spend more time actually organizing the group

13:04 Angela Ge: i found out about this on someone's blog in iran :) weeks ago

13:04 Effulgent Brown: iran is such a pretty country, good greif

13:04 Dire Lobo: Angela, with regards to greeters - are you asking about YKOS in SL?

13:04 Angela Ge: pretty country, government is another story..

13:04 Angela Ge: yes.. Dire

13:05 Effulgent Brown: yeah, the gov sucks

13:05 Dire Lobo: We will be seeking volunteers as we get closer to the event.

13:05 Angela Ge nods

13:05 Effulgent Brown: the people are sweet, and fun

13:05 Angela Ge: i was also referring to the welcome area..

13:05 Dire Lobo: Certainly we want to find experienced SL users and NetRoots participatns who can help out both with