13:03 Ruby Glitter: So for the first hour today, we have an open session.

13:03 Earth Student: i keep facing the wrong way on these pillars :)

13:03 Ruby Glitter: I'd like ot suggest that we go around and introduce ourselves.

13:04 Teravus Ousley: Yes.. they could use a sit target :)

13:04 Ruby Glitter: (Earth, sit from 180^ of the direction you want to face)

13:04 Ruby Glitter: ie, start inside the semi-circle, and then sit.

13:05 Ruby Glitter: Sorry, they are very simple stools. ;-)

13:05 Aldon Huffhines is Offline

13:05 Corsin Dharma: works :)

13:05 Earth Student: i demand ikea

13:05 Medium Helvetic: I've met people like that

13:05 Medium Helvetic: simple stools

13:05 Corsin Dharma: uh I like Helvetic as a name :)

13:05 Ruby Glitter: So as we introduce, please let us know eher you are located (geographically), your RL name (if you like), and what kind of political activism you do ( if any).

13:05 Teravus Ousley: In the state_entry event.. add a llSitTarget(vector offset,rotation rotation);

13:06 Ruby Glitter: We can all type our intros at once - please keep them on one line.

13:06 Medium Helvetic: Wayne MacPhail, rabble.ca Canada alternative news

13:06 Ruby Glitter: I am Ruby Sinreich, I live in Chapel Hill, NC. I work for an organization that help progressive camapigns use the Intenet more effectively for community organizing. And I run alocal politics blog here in Orange County, NC.

13:07 Earth Student: Kansas City, USA, conflicted philosophies :)

13:07 In Kenzo is Online

13:07 Teravus Ousley: Teravus Ousley, connecticut, future projects involve political podcasts.

13:07 Tortie Talon: Tortie Boston, MA

13:07 Corsin Dharma: My Name is Corsin and I am from Switzerland. I just wanted to check a RootCamp and see if it would work in our system

13:07 Carenahh Kuu: Chicago, IL - checking out the root camp also

13:08 Ruby Glitter: Great!

13:08 Ruby Glitter: Also, before we go on, I need to ask if it's OK with all of you to have teh chat log ad pictures posted online. OK?

13:08 Medium Helvetic: sure

13:08 Carenahh Kuu: sure

13:08 Earth Student: fine by me

13:08 Corsin Dharma: no problem

13:08 Teravus Ousley: acceptable by me also

13:09 Ruby Glitter: Great, thanks.

13:09 Medium Helvetic: so much for swearing trirade I'd planned

13:09 Ruby Glitter: (that should have read chat log aNd pictures)

13:09 Ruby Glitter: heh. don't hold back!

13:09 Ruby Glitter: As you all probably know. Today is the 4th day of RootsCamp SL.

13:10 Ruby Glitter: If it's your first time, please click the orb to my right to get information about what we're doing.

13:10 Guest Book: Talk to me! Say 'gbhelp' for a list of commands.

13:10 Ruby Glitter: So. Today (until 2pm) is open! Any suggestions fo rtopics or questions you'd like to discuss?

13:10 Ruby Glitter: Just shout 'em out.

13:11 Ruby Glitter: ooh, the slience is deafening. ;-)

13:11 Medium Helvetic: bringing podcasting into SL

13:11 Ruby Glitter: Good one.

13:11 Ruby Glitter: I'd like to hear from Drew how RootsCampSF is going.

13:11 Aldon Huffhines is Online

13:11 Ruby Glitter: And I walys like ot hear abou tthe other resources ppl have found here in SL.

13:12 Ruby Glitter: Any other topics? Election stories you'd liek to share? Questions...?

13:13 Ruby Glitter: Also, Aldon had s a good question yeterday about making and using campaign materials in SL, we can maybe get to that too...

13:13 Teravus Ousley: well.. anyone have any other insights into the changes in congress.. with democrat majority.. and what that would mean for getting bills passed

13:13 Aldon Huffhines: Yeah, sorry my computer is flakey and I'm fading inand out...

13:13 Earth Student: The depression of electing one fouled party to send a message to another fouled party? :)

13:14 Ruby Glitter: good, teravus.

13:14 Aldon Huffhines: Also, I need to leave in a little while...

13:14 Ruby Glitter: I am with you, Earth!

13:14 Drew Frobozz: Ruby, I'm trying to project our session here at RootsCampSF so I'll be in and out of paying attention...

13:14 Aldon Huffhines: Related to bills getting passed, I'm particularly interested in efforts for a more transparent congresss..

13:14 Ruby Glitter: OK. We won't blame you if you're not responsive.

13:14 Aldon Huffhines: Like ReadTheBill.Org

13:14 Ruby Glitter: Please tell us what they're saying in SF.

13:15 Aldon Huffhines: and the Punch Clock campaign.

13:15 Earth Student: elections seem to be like "The was an old lady who swallowed a fly" - bring in one problem to solve another

13:15 Ruby Glitter: Hi Santafe, I didn't se eyou there!

13:15 Jose Rote is Online

13:15 Ruby Glitter: Can you please introduce yourself?

13:15 Carenahh Kuu: please explain the Punch clock campaign..I am not aware

13:16 Ruby Glitter: Aldon, what is the Punch Clock camapign?

13:16 Santafe Quijote: Hi Santafe.... first visit to roots camp

13:16 Aldon Huffhines: The Punch Clock campaign is sponsored by the Sunlight Foundation...

13:16 Aldon Huffhines: To get congress people to put their schedules online.

13:16 Ruby Glitter: Welcome, Santafe. Can youplease share alittle about yourself, location, activism. And do you mind the chat log and photos from this session being posted online?

13:16 Carenahh Kuu: excellent!

13:16 Santafe Quijote: excuse if i appear anti social...can't figure how to turn avatar

13:17 Aldon Huffhines: http://www.sunlightnetwork.com/punchclock

13:17 Ruby Glitter: Don't worry abou tit.

13:17 Santafe Quijote: tnks

13:17 Ruby Glitter: Wow, Sunlight is doing so many good things. I hear about a new one all the time.

13:18 Jose Rote is Offline

13:18 Aldon Huffhines: Yeah. Sunlight Foundation is great. We should get them here.

13:18 Ruby Glitter: OK, so we have some topics: podcasting in SL, the changes in congress, RL RootsCamp in SF, campaigning in SL...

13:18 Teravus Ousley: As far as getting podcasts into SecondLife.. you either have to own land or have media access to group owned land. You also have to have podcast address. Which then you can add to the media tab in the land tools

13:19 Medium Helvetic: cool just about to buy land

13:19 Ruby Glitter: Interesting.

13:19 Corsin Dharma: with podcasting you mean audio and video?

13:19 Medium Helvetic: yes

13:19 Corsin Dharma: and can you live stream?

13:19 Medium Helvetic: general RSS enclosure

13:19 Ruby Glitter: Teravus, is there a tool that reads the podcast feed?

13:19 Corsin Dharma: live capturing a session and directly stream in here?

13:20 Ruby Glitter: podcasting is timeshifted, not live.

13:20 Medium Helvetic: yes

13:20 Medium Helvetic: don't care about streaming

13:20 Teravus Ousley: Video can be a bit more challenging.. however .. anything quicktime supports, SecondLife also supports

13:20 Ruby Glitter: I am still missin gthe link between the RSS feed and SL.

13:20 Ruby Glitter: how do you get it in-world?

13:20 Ruby Glitter: teravus?

13:21 Teravus Ousley: at the moment, there isn't an RSS reader that I'm aware of.. you have to either know the address of the MP3 file.. or have a radio with a specialized httprequest response

13:21 Ruby Glitter: oh, so it doesn't read the feed but the individual audio files?

13:21 Ana Herzog: how about multiple feeds for multiple screens

13:22 Ruby Glitter: Hi Ana, I didn't se eyou in the corner there!

13:22 Ana Herzog: Hi

13:22 Teravus Ousley: indeed, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a RSS reader. So.. to get your podcast into secondlife you would need a special method of getting the information into secondlife

13:22 Ruby Glitter: Welcome to RootsCamp, Laudy.

13:23 Medium Helvetic: what do you mean by "radio" in SL

13:23 Teravus Ousley: alternatively, you could set up a ShoutCast stream of all of your episodes

13:23 Ana Herzog: codepink has land and we have codepink videos playing but i'm very interested in podcasts.

13:23 Medium Helvetic: hey Laudy

13:23 Ruby Glitter: How do you do the videos, Ana?

13:23 Teravus Ousley: There are radios with content addresses pre-programmed in

13:23 Ana Herzog: can podcasts be given a mp3 address

13:23 Medium Helvetic: cool

13:23 Ruby Glitter: technically, a podcast is an RSS feed with MP3 enclosures in the posts.

13:24 Ana Herzog: and translated for those of us that kluge stuff together?

13:24 Ana Herzog: lol

13:25 Teravus Ousley: depending on how many listeners I planned to have in SecondLife.. I'd go with the Shoutcast stream to start. Streaming all of the episodes of the podcast into a parcel in secondlife

13:25 Ruby Glitter: well it's a lot liek a blog's RSS feed, but instead of text it has an MP3.

13:25 Ruby Glitter: teravus, where are you setting this up?

13:25 Ruby Glitter: Do you have some land?

13:25 Medium Helvetic: what does a shoutcast stream do to bandwidth and lag

13:25 Ruby Glitter: Welcome to RootsCamp Lorenskog.

13:26 Teravus Ousley: I own a mini parcel :).. however I tend to work with the group that I'm in that owns a few sims

13:26 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

13:27 Ruby Glitter: Other questions about podcasting? I feel we shoudl do a less geeky topic next. ;-)

13:27 Teravus Ousley: Shoutcast streams don't add very much lag at the client end.. however.. they do add computation lag if the stream source is on the same computer.

13:27 Ana Herzog: Nicecast works too I think.... for those macly inclined

13:27 Medium Helvetic: yes. You are the cutest though

13:27 Medium Helvetic: good to know

13:28 Teravus Ousley: indeed, Nicecast also works

13:28 Medium Helvetic: will try it out

13:28 Ruby Glitter: Andrew, any report from SF?

13:28 Drew Frobozz: hey if you know about Nicecast we'd love to try it to publish the audio from RootsCampSF to RootsCampSL this weekend...

13:29 Drew Frobozz: yeah we have five people gathered around here watching during lunch hour

13:29 Lorenskog Rhino: hrm, nicecast?

13:29 Ana Herzog: i have set mine up yet. nicecast that is

13:29 Drew Frobozz: and I'll be presenting "live" tomorrow at 2pm SLT

13:29 Aldon Huffhines is Offline

13:29 Ruby Glitter: Drew, do you have time to give us a run-down on how the RL event is going?

13:29 Drew Frobozz: there are about 50 people here in SF-- great sessions.

13:29 Teravus Ousley: I'd go with shoutcast for the nonmac users..

13:29 Ruby Glitter: You'll be presnting in RL and SL?

13:29 Drew Frobozz: lots of reporting from the McNerny campaign, etc.

13:30 Teravus Ousley: http://www.shoutcast.com for more information about setting it up

13:30 Drew Frobozz: presenting in RL while RootsCampSL is going on

13:30 Ruby Glitter: How many peopel are there? Are they happy or sad? Nice or mean?

13:30 Ruby Glitter: Oh. :-(

13:30 Drew Frobozz: I'd love to sych them

13:30 Drew Frobozz: but we'd need a Quicktime server,

13:30 Drew Frobozz: and we'd need someone to take responsibility for figuring it out / setting it up

13:31 Ruby Glitter: OK...

13:31 Medium Helvetic: thanks all

13:31 Drew Frobozz: but without a Quicktime server, we could still do audio

13:31 Ruby Glitter: Of course. I hope it's helpful. What is the projct your'e working on, anyway?

13:31 Teravus Ousley: True.. :).. Shoutcast server and winamp :)

13:32 Teravus Ousley: and a Microphone.. is all you need. :)

13:32 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

13:32 Ruby Glitter: I am curious - we asked this yesterday - how long have folks been using SL?

13:33 Ruby Glitter: Please just shout out.

13:33 Medium Helvetic: three weeks

13:33 Carenahh Kuu shouts: only about 90 days for me

13:33 Drew Frobozz: Teravus-- great! :) Can you step me through it step by step?

13:33 Ana Herzog: since july

13:33 Ruby Glitter: I've been on since the NetSquared conference on June.

13:33 Drew Frobozz: I can set it up right now if I can use the microphone on my MacBook Pro here...

13:33 Ana Herzog: w00t

13:34 Drew Frobozz: Ruby, do you want me to announce this session to the lists, or wait for the CodePink talk at 2pm?

13:34 Teravus Ousley: hmm.. well the winamp method is a windows.. so you'd have to boot to winxp with bootcamp

13:34 Ruby Glitter: Also on a MacBook pro... otherwise I couldn't even use SL! :-(

13:34 Ruby Glitter: I 'm just here to facilitate, not lead this session. So what else do y'all want to talk about?

13:34 Medium Helvetic: Getting a MacbookPro next week

13:35 Ruby Glitter: I can also give you a guided tour of our space here. Which would be short. ;-)

13:35 Ana Herzog: i'm jealous -- only a macbook here

13:35 Ruby Glitter: Hi, In.

13:35 Ruby Glitter: We're just havign an open session right now.

13:35 In Kenzo: hello all, glad to see new friends ;-)

13:36 Teravus Ousley: Ive used SL since 5/11 :).. addicted. Made a few interesting things..

13:36 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

13:36 Drew Frobozz: so can anybody step me through setting up nicecast here so you can hear us in SF?

13:36 Ruby Glitter: I just started to learn to build last week. thanks in part to In.

13:36 Ruby Glitter: Speaking of which, In can you dleete this cube from yesterday's sandbox session?

13:36 Ruby Glitter: I don't have permission.

13:37 In Kenzo: which cube? riversong will be your cleanup friend here.

13:37 Hayduke Ebisu is Online

13:37 Ana Herzog: can we create here? i hope...

13:37 Ruby Glitter: this one

13:37 Ruby Glitter: yes, Ana.

13:37 Teravus Ousley: hmm.. I'm not sure the steps to set it up on Nicecast, Drew.

13:37 Ana Herzog: good i have visuals

13:37 In Kenzo: you can create but please take items with you

13:37 Ana Herzog: of course

13:38 Medium Helvetic: must go thanks

13:38 In Kenzo: so that ruby does not have the problem with this box that she faces now...sorry ruby, do not have return permissions on this part of the island, only riversong can do that for you

13:38 Medium Helvetic is Offline

13:38 Ruby Glitter: OK, no biggie.

13:38 Ruby Glitter: It's just a peeve, not a problem.

13:38 Ana Herzog: we can use it for a soapbox

13:38 In Kenzo: i cover them with things when we hit that at camp darfur.

13:39 In Kenzo: until riversong comes back around, she's usually here every day.

13:39 Ruby Glitter: OK, NP.

13:39 Ruby Glitter: Anyone havce building/creating questions? That was a lot of fun yesterday. :-)

13:40 Ruby Glitter: I added soem boxes with groups that are out friends or sponsors over ot my right.

13:40 In Kenzo: ah, the pink slip!

13:40 Ruby Glitter: I will add some info to them later.

13:40 In Kenzo: funny

13:40 In Kenzo: went to artivist film fest last night

13:40 In Kenzo: premiere of fast food nation, they have a code pink movie in that festival too.

13:40 Ruby Glitter: Nice cover, teravus!

13:40 Ana Herzog: excellent! we are everywhere!

13:40 Ruby Glitter: Now we haev to be careful not to trip on it. ;-)

13:41 Teravus Ousley: I set it for sale for 0L so you can get it Ruby

13:41 Ruby Glitter: Thanks.

13:42 Ruby Glitter: yesterday, Aldon made a campaign button for Ned Lamont that avaters could wear.

13:42 Jose Rote is Online

13:42 Ruby Glitter: Any othert ideas besides t-shirts for that type of marketing/campaigning?

13:43 Ruby Glitter: what kind of freebeie's do peopel like?

13:43 In Kenzo: i loved what standup did, with activating bracelets

13:43 Teravus Ousley: gestures

13:43 Ana Herzog: pink slips!

13:43 Ruby Glitter: Ah, good suggestion.

13:43 Carenahh Kuu: flags for their land

13:43 Ruby Glitter: yes, Ana!

13:43 Ruby Glitter: Excelelnt demo!

13:43 In Kenzo: mini-viewers and posters.

13:43 Ruby Glitter: I haven't played with gestures much yet.

13:43 Ruby Glitter: How do you make them and how do you share them?

13:44 Ana Herzog: one member is working on peace sign

13:44 Teravus Ousley: usually gestures involve an animation, and a sound file

13:44 In Kenzo: bring in .wav files of statements you want to hear in SL

13:44 Ruby Glitter: Ah.

13:44 Ana Herzog: i'm hoping to bring in codepink chants

13:44 Ruby Glitter: how do I animate myself?

13:44 In Kenzo: there was a great line in the movie last night....may be misquoting..."the most patriotic thing you can do in america today is defy the patriot act"

13:44 Ruby Glitter: Good idea, Ana!

13:45 Ruby Glitter: Right on, In.

13:45 Teravus Ousley: with a program called Avimator. or a program called Poser

13:45 In Kenzo: movie quotes make good gestures, and chants, anything fun and repeatable.

13:45 In Kenzo: they're bringing it inworld soon, you can do some inworld already.

13:45 In Kenzo: if you have a pose you like you can add the wav.

13:45 Ruby Glitter: OK. Thanks, Teravus.

13:46 Ana Herzog: those programs are fairly expensive, no?

13:46 Ruby Glitter: One of our camper made a gi-normous bill board for John Edwards.

13:46 Ruby Glitter: he gave it to me, but it's as big as this whole space!

13:47 In Kenzo: you can do it inworld soon for free, some you can do already

13:47 Ana Herzog: how?

13:47 Ruby Glitter: So, I don't recommend gigantic billboards. :-)

13:47 Teravus Ousley: avimator is a free program. Poser 5 is a commercial program that .. last I checked.. cost $10.. Poser 6 also works.. but it costs in the $100 range

13:47 Ana Herzog: not bad.... thanks

13:47 In Kenzo: freaky message eyes.....billboard skins!

13:48 Ana Herzog: um.... we've been known to accidentally leave stuff in sandboxes....

13:48 Ruby Glitter: Message stuff, Ana?

13:49 Ana Herzog: yep

13:49 Ruby Glitter: That's a agood way to get things out.

13:49 Ruby Glitter: ;-)

13:49 Ana Herzog: of course we don't mean to forget them

13:49 Ruby Glitter: Of course!

13:49 Ana Herzog: LMAO

13:49 In Kenzo: it only takes griefers to get press, at least that's what we learned with camp darfur.

13:49 Ruby Glitter: I need a /wink gesture...

13:49 Ruby Glitter: Good point.

13:50 Teravus Ousley: well.. as long as you are sitting.. the worst they can do is spam the chat

13:50 In Kenzo: sorry, only have wink on my mystitool

13:50 Ruby Glitter: We made a press advisory and shared it with Adam Reuters.

13:50 Teravus Ousley: .. and fill up the parcel

13:50 In Kenzo: SLNN, SLED, even Metaverse Messenger are easy to reach.

13:51 Ruby Glitter: yes. It helps if you give them more than 48 hours lead time, too. ;-)

13:51 In Kenzo: I'm told $ is required for New World Notes coverage. your website is getting lots of hits though!

13:51 Ruby Glitter: Cool!

13:51 Ruby Glitter: Does anyone have siggestions for other things I can make or put here ot enhance the camp?

13:51 Ruby Glitter: We have the photo album that Drew is looking at.

13:51 Ruby Glitter: Anyone in our group can add images.

13:52 Ruby Glitter: we have the info billboard.

13:52 Teravus Ousley: I'd suggest putting a sit target in these log seats :)

13:52 In Kenzo: those of you who are working with candidates, it would be great to see some real content brought in...

13:52 Ruby Glitter: yeah, I've been meanign to do somethign about that.

13:52 Ruby Glitter: what exactly is a sit target?

13:52 In Kenzo: cushion tha ttells you how to sit.

13:52 Teravus Ousley: in the script.. you can set how the avatar sits on the log. and what direction they face :)

13:52 Ruby Glitter: I can make a cushion, but how do you give it the instructions?

13:53 Ana Herzog: we're planning a new years day regata of boats, inner tubes, etc. and will do pr for it with all the news groups. alpeaceful rootie groups welcome

13:53 In Kenzo gave you Sit Target.

13:53 Ana Herzog: candidates etc

13:54 Drew Frobozz: back in a moment, and will send out messages to the groups re: the CodePink talk starting shortly

13:55 Ruby Glitter: Thanks, Drew!

13:56 In Kenzo: eek, that's sucks

13:56 Teravus Ousley gave you Log Seat.

13:56 In Kenzo: just sit it there on log

13:56 In Kenzo: like this

13:57 Ruby Glitter: I see...

13:57 Ruby Glitter: Thanks, Teravus.

13:57 Ruby Glitter: So I need to sit on it to direct it?

13:57 In Kenzo: it is easier to move when you edit while sitting

13:57 In Kenzo: like this one

13:57 Ruby Glitter: makes sense.

13:57 In Kenzo: you can change pose

13:57 Teravus Ousley: k, now when you rez it.. sit on it .. then rotate it the direction you want the sitter to be sitting

13:58 Teravus Ousley: now if someone else sits on it.. they'll be facing the same direction

13:58 Ana Herzog: i recommend anyone who really wants to learn some of the basics take classes now..... linden supported educaiton disappears December 9th

13:59 Ruby Glitter: I didn't knwo that!

13:59 Ruby Glitter: I never wanted/needed to learn until this week.

13:59 In Kenzo: we all pick it up as we go

13:59 Ruby Glitter: i like teaching myself stuff.

13:59 Ruby Glitter: exactly.

13:59 Ana Herzog: talked to some from a linden education mtg yesterday

14:00 Teravus Ousley: The Log seat that I gave you Ruby is full permissioned.. so you can take examine and take out the script if you'd like

14:01 Ruby Glitter: Thank you Teravus!

14:01 Drew Frobozz: Ruby, shall I send out the notice about getting started to the groups?

14:01 Ana Herzog: am i on soon?

14:01 Ana Herzog: can i rezz stuff

14:01 Ruby Glitter: Sorry, I didn't notice the time!

14:01 Ruby Glitter: yes, go ahead.

14:02 Ana Herzog: np

14:02 Ana Herzog: lol

14:02 Ruby Glitter: Drew, are you doing the annoucnemnt?

14:02 Drew Frobozz: will do

14:02 There is no suitable surface to sit on, try another spot.

14:02 Ruby Glitter: F!

14:03 Ruby Glitter: Ana, you can start getting ready while we wait for folks to show up.

14:03 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

14:03 Ana Herzog: okay

14:05 Ana Herzog: tell me when and i'll start extemporizing

14:06 Ruby Glitter: You can start anytime you like. But you can also wait. ;-)

14:06 Ruby Glitter: May I recommend the process giude?

14:06 Ana Herzog: okay.....

14:06 Ana Herzog accepted your inventory offer.

14:06 Ana Herzog: oh yes....

14:07 Ana Herzog: i tried to get someone to be secretary but they aren't here. Any volunteers

14:07 Ana Herzog: pretty please

14:07 Ruby Glitter: I will!

14:07 Ana Herzog: thank you Ruby!

14:07 Ruby Glitter: NP.

14:08 Ana Herzog: so everyone here is comfortable with recording etc?

14:08 Ana Herzog: speak now or ....

14:08 Ruby Glitter: :-)

14:08 Teravus Ousley <------ Comfortable

14:08 Ana Herzog: cool. others?

14:08 Ruby Glitter: yes, I affirm.

14:08 Drew Frobozz: yes

14:09 Ana Herzog: and In?

14:09 Ana Herzog: hmmmm

14:09 Ana Herzog: okay..... ready, set, go!

14:09 Drew Frobozz: if there a CodePinkSL group we can send an announcement to?

14:09 Teravus Ousley: In ~= AFK?

14:09 Ruby Glitter: As the secretary, I'll make sure she apporves before we finish.

14:10 Ana Herzog: i sent a notice yesterday

14:10 Ana Herzog: but yes there is a group

14:10 Ana Herzog: with a bout 25 members

14:10 Ruby Glitter: Shall we remind them?

14:10 Ana Herzog: sure. i gave you notice power. would you mind?

14:10 Ruby Glitter: NP.

14:10 Ana Herzog: TY!

14:11 Emily Althouse is Online

14:11 Ana Herzog: Okay. let's down to ribald tactics for getting media attention!

14:11 Ana Herzog: For me that is a big part of CODEPINK

14:12 Ana Herzog: it started in 2002

14:12 Ana Herzog: 4 yrs ago

14:12 Ana Herzog: are you al familiar with CODEPINK women for peace?

14:12 You decline Outdoor Movie Theatre, BWI (109, 90, 30) from A group member named Ruby Glitter.

14:12 Ana Herzog: Thanks Ruby for sending the notice!

14:13 Ruby Glitter: yes, I see them at all the cool protests.

14:13 Kianeira MacDiarmid: is this where the notice said to come?

14:13 Ruby Glitter: Yep!

14:13 Ana Herzog: yessiree

14:13 Ruby Glitter: Welcome Kianera.

14:13 Kianeira MacDiarmid: there is a person at the place i found when i searched

14:13 Kianeira MacDiarmid: and he doesn't speak english

14:13 Kianeira MacDiarmid: only spanish

14:13 Kianeira MacDiarmid: btw, hello everyone :)

14:13 Ana Herzog: so i said i'd talk about jesters lingerie and cyber disobedience

14:13 Ana Herzog: HI

14:13 Ruby Glitter: Welcome, AF.

14:14 AF Viking: hi

14:14 Kianeira MacDiarmid: hehe

14:15 Ana Herzog: the jester or fool or whatever is so important to turning culture upside down

14:15 Ana Herzog: and that is sort of what codepink does

14:15 Ana Herzog: like my slip

14:15 Ana Herzog: lingerie gets

14:15 Ana Herzog: ATTENTION!

14:15 Ana Herzog: lol

14:15 Ana Herzog: and that is what we needed when there was the fear

14:16 Ruby Glitter: Ana, is John Stewart also doing the "jester" thing you refer to?

14:16 Ruby Glitter: I've never thought about it this way.

14:16 Ana Herzog: and craziness

14:16 Ana Herzog: yep

14:16 Ana Herzog: in times of censorship,

14:16 Ana Herzog: metaphors are extremely useful

14:16 Ana Herzog: so i thought id go through wom pics of stuff from the last year

14:17 Ana Herzog: in rl

14:17 Ana Herzog: and then move to what we can do here in sl

14:17 Ana Herzog: sound ok?

14:17 Ana Herzog: everyone with me so far?

14:17 AF Viking: greg is that you?

14:17 Teravus Ousley nods

14:17 Ruby Glitter: Sounds good, Ana.

14:17 Ana Herzog: the pic on the screen is of a 13 yr old girl

14:18 Ana Herzog: she has a peace blog

14:18 Ana Herzog: at mothersday outside the whitehouse

14:18 Ana Herzog: and has recieved death threats

14:18 Ruby Glitter: teh girl has?

14:18 Ana Herzog: brave future woman

14:18 Ana Herzog: yes

14:18 Ruby Glitter: Why?

14:18 Ruby Glitter: From who?

14:19 Ana Herzog: because peace is threatening

14:19 Ana Herzog: to many who are invested in corporatism

14:19 Ana Herzog: and repression

14:19 Ana Herzog: this was one of my first experiences with codepink

14:20 Ana Herzog: i saw this on the codepink website in early 2003

14:20 Ana Herzog: it is on a roof in Tucson

14:20 Ana Herzog: where the AirForce pilots can see it as they go over to land

14:20 Ruby Glitter: Ah.

14:21 Ana Herzog: at Davis Montham AFB

14:21 Ana Herzog: this is the mothers say no to war picture from may 13th in DC

14:22 Ana Herzog: our bodies spelled out the message

14:22 Ana Herzog: the pic is from the washington monument

14:22 Ana Herzog: this is from the women's day march in 2003 --march 8th

14:23 Ruby Glitter: I can't see it.

14:23 Ana Herzog: this day was to end codepink

14:23 Kianeira MacDiarmid: Ruby, if you right click on it sometimes it appears quicker

14:23 Ruby Glitter: Ah, thanks. mouseover did the trick.

14:24 Ana Herzog: the 4 mounth vigil in front of the white house was to end with a pink march on march 8th

14:24 AF Viking: yo... am I sitting bext to Greg Nelson over here?

14:24 Ana Herzog: but 5000 people showed up (maybe more)

14:24 Ana Herzog: so we decided it must fill a need

14:24 Ana Herzog: an open niche if you will

14:24 Ana Herzog: now there are well over 250 chapters

14:25 Ana Herzog: oh be sure to click on the peacesign to get your freebies

14:25 Ana Herzog: this is the first pink house in SL

14:25 Ana Herzog: no longer there

14:26 Ana Herzog: but there is a new hangout

14:26 Ana Herzog: lm in the peace sign stuff

14:26 Ana Herzog: mothers day

14:27 Ana Herzog: with roses symbolic of all the mothers who could not receive mothers day gifts from their deceased soldier children

14:27 Ana Herzog: and children period

14:27 Ana Herzog: code pink is a play on words

14:27 Ana Herzog: per the fear system of code red code orange

14:28 Ana Herzog: we want to see peace declared --- a women's peace

14:28 Ana Herzog: code pink is also the alert raised in hospitals when a child is missing

14:28 Ruby Glitter: wow, I didn't knwo that.

14:28 Ana Herzog: mothers all over the world are missing children due to war waged by the US

14:29 Ana Herzog: :-)

14:29 Kianeira MacDiarmid: i thought the code for a missing child was an Amber Alert

14:29 Ana Herzog: we women are clever!

14:29 Ruby Glitter: that's for kidnapping. she said in hositpals. ;-)

14:29 Ana Herzog: amber is recent for highway notification

14:29 Ana Herzog: pink is for a stolen baby in a hospital

14:29 Kianeira MacDiarmid: ohhh

14:30 Ana Herzog: this is some pink marking chalk that mysteriously appeared in an army recruiting parking lot

14:31 Ruby Glitter: Appeared?

14:31 Ana Herzog: *wink*

14:31 Ana Herzog: this is us having fun at the peace store after a meeting

14:32 Ana Herzog: this was a protest by the goddesses when Bush was speaking in Tucson

14:32 Ana Herzog: as a religious procession led by the virgin mary

14:33 Ana Herzog: the cops couldn't stop the wiccan sisters from completing a spiral and walking right past all the folks lined up to hear bush speak

14:33 Ana Herzog: the spiral was to contain the evil nature of bush

14:33 Ana Herzog: lol

14:33 Ruby Glitter: Hmm. Did it work?

14:34 Ruby Glitter: Delayed reaction... maybe it worked on Tuesday.

14:34 Ana Herzog: and to play the jester again for the other protestors

14:34 Teravus Ousley: hehe

14:34 Ana Herzog: yes it worked.

14:34 Ruby Glitter: :-)

14:34 Ana Herzog: his buddies criminal actions began coming to light a few days later

14:34 Ana Herzog: the classic pink slip

14:35 Ana Herzog: i think this was in chicago

14:35 Ana Herzog: yell out questions if you have em

14:36 Ruby Glitter: Well I curious about this whole jester thing.

14:36 Ruby Glitter: As I mentioned, I've never thoguth abou tit that way.

14:36 Kianeira MacDiarmid: i didn't see the slip

14:36 Ruby Glitter: Comedy is definitely very effective for critique.

14:36 Ana Herzog: i will go back to the slip

14:36 Kianeira MacDiarmid: thank you

14:36 Ana Herzog: soon

14:37 Ana Herzog: jesters clowns coyote....

14:37 Ana Herzog: shakespeare's fool

14:37 Ana Herzog: oh this one is great

14:37 Ana Herzog: it is't pink but

14:37 Teravus Ousley: Thank you for the presentation, :). having a hard time keeping my eyes open because of sleep depravation though.. so I think I'll be heading off. Thanks and nice to meet you all :)

14:37 Ana Herzog: it is women's satire

14:37 Ruby Glitter: Thanks for coming, tervaus. And for your help wiht the seating, etc.

14:37 Ana Herzog: ANd you Teravus.

14:38 Ana Herzog: ok i'm taking over the screen again

14:38 Kianeira MacDiarmid: where will the log be posted?

14:38 Ruby Glitter: Kianera, it's at rootscampsl.org

14:38 Kianeira MacDiarmid: will it have the pictures?

14:39 Kianeira MacDiarmid: thank you Ruby :)

14:39 Ruby Glitter: It won't have the entire presentations.

14:39 Ana Herzog: the classic pink slip out the window banner

14:39 SNOOPYbrown Zamboni: hi guys

14:39 Ana Herzog: hi

14:39 Ruby Glitter: but there are pictures of *us* on flickr, tagged rootscampsl.

14:39 Kianeira MacDiarmid: well, i saw most of them i think

14:39 SNOOPYbrown Zamboni: sorry i missed again

14:39 Ruby Glitter: Welcoem back, SNOOPYbrown.

14:39 SNOOPYbrown Zamboni: back in a little though

14:39 Hayduke Ebisu is Offline

14:39 SNOOPYbrown Zamboni: have to fly :)

14:39 Ruby Glitter: Ana, is still leading her presentation/discussion.

14:39 Ruby Glitter: OK.

14:39 Ana Herzog: this is done across from major political events

14:40 Ana Herzog: book a room lock yourself in and drop a banner out the window

14:40 Ana Herzog: lol

14:40 Ruby Glitter: Heh.

14:41 Ana Herzog: a movie codepink recommends

14:41 Ruby Glitter: Never heard of it...

14:41 Ana Herzog: about how the vietnam war ended because the troops began to revolt

14:41 Drew Frobozz: yay! Goodstorm does the shirts or that. It's powerful imagery.

14:41 Ana Herzog: they could no longer trust the troops to go out on mission

14:42 Ana Herzog: an excellent historical documentary for ideas about what has worked

14:42 Ana Herzog: in the past

14:42 Ruby Glitter: Just so it gets in the chat log, it's called "Sir! No Sir!"

14:42 Ana Herzog: Iraqi Veterans against the war were sending copies totdeployed troops

14:42 Ruby Glitter: Wow!

14:43 Ana Herzog: yes

14:43 Ana Herzog: Sir! No Sir!

14:43 Ruby Glitter: Cool.

14:43 Ana Herzog: i should have a petter script for the pics

14:43 Ana Herzog: but you get the idea

14:44 Ana Herzog: i think

14:44 Ruby Glitter: what does that one say?

14:44 Ruby Glitter: I can't read it well.

14:44 Ana Herzog: i can't see it at all. lol

14:45 Kianeira MacDiarmid: what is this one?

14:45 Ruby Glitter: Ah yes. Can you talk more about how Code Pink is using SL to organize?

14:45 Ana Herzog: yes, i came to sl to get away from street violence i'd been targeted with

14:45 Ruby Glitter: Wow.

14:45 Ana Herzog: we always have to change the faces on the street

14:46 Ana Herzog: after i got thrown out of the senate in may

14:46 Ana Herzog: attacks and hassles for me increased

14:46 Ana Herzog: so i decided to bring cp to sl

14:46 Ana Herzog: i built a store/house and a group

14:47 Ana Herzog: and began checking it out

14:47 Ruby Glitter: And how do you use them?

14:47 Ana Herzog: the pink slip flag has been our most popular

14:47 Ana Herzog: along with the vote peace info giver

14:47 Ruby Glitter: It's very cool.

14:47 Beth Kavka is Online

14:48 Ana Herzog: other things we are considering doing besides lots of freebies

14:48 Ana Herzog: is a regata on new years day

14:48 Ana Herzog: it is sort of difficult to march here

14:48 Ana Herzog: but we can sail

14:48 Ruby Glitter: BTW, when I click on the peace sign, it's not giving me anything. Do I right-click?

14:48 Ana Herzog: like a parade

14:49 Ana Herzog: take a copy

14:49 Ruby Glitter: OK.

14:49 Ana Herzog: sorry

14:49 Ana Herzog: this is all so very different. lol

14:49 Beth Kavka is Offline

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14:49 Beth Kavka is Online

14:49 Ana Herzog: the other thing we are thinking aoubt doing is having fun events

14:49 Ruby Glitter: Oops.

14:49 Ruby Glitter: I took the whole thing!

14:49 Ana Herzog: like fashion shows

14:50 Lola Namanari: A fashion show would be a lot of fun.

14:51 Ruby Glitter: Welcome back, Beth!

14:51 Lola Namanari: You know, I'm very into building things here...attending classes at *TuI* and such. Why not have classes in which we can build pertinent things, like that peace sign?

14:51 Beth Kavka: hi .. just here to grab a landmark fro tommorrow

14:51 Ana Herzog: i'm looking for another copy

14:51 Kianeira MacDiarmid: when i click on the peace sign it doesn't give me options to take a copy

14:51 Ana Herzog: lola that is an excellent suggestion

14:51 Lola Namanari: You can get those who are into building, and then telll them about your organization and goals.

14:51 Ana Herzog: and classes will soon be disappearing.

14:52 Lola Namanari: They are?

14:52 Kianeira MacDiarmid: what is Tul?

14:52 Ana Herzog: yes. linden stops paying teachers on december 8th

14:52 Guerrillynn Arcadia: ty

14:52 Lola Namanari: IT's a place where there are many classes on building things,using prims, scripting, all sorts of things.

14:53 Beth Kavka is Offline

14:53 Ruby Glitter: I've never heard of it before today.

14:53 Ana Herzog gave you Freebie Giving CODEPINK Peace Symbol.

14:53 Drew Frobozz: is there anywhere in Second Life where activist groups are congregating geographically?

14:53 Kianeira MacDiarmid: Thanks for the peace symbol :)

14:53 Ana Herzog: ther should be stuff inside

14:53 Ana Herzog: did i miss anyone

14:53 Lola Namanari: They are located in the Beyond the Prim sim.

14:53 Lola Namanari: TY Ana

14:54 In Kenzo: here drew!

14:54 In Kenzo: BWI is for international grassroots leaders, educators, some activist groups here too.

14:54 Ana Herzog: okay peace paraphenalia classes !

14:54 Ana Herzog: excellent suggestion

14:54 Lola Namanari: TY

14:54 Drew Frobozz: :) But Kenzo, can we use this space forever?

14:55 Ana Herzog: first clothing for me

14:55 In Kenzo: there are many spaces available to borrow for events.

14:55 Ana Herzog: i made this slip last night

14:55 Ana Herzog: lol

14:55 In Kenzo: or permanent spaces available, speak to riversong garden.

14:55 Drew Frobozz: would it be useful to buy an island and donate parcels to progressive activist groups?

14:55 In Kenzo: we have ~8 groups here now.

14:55 Ana Herzog: YES!

14:55 In Kenzo: commonwealth island is doing something along those lines.

14:55 Drew Frobozz: or would that be redundant with BWI?

14:55 In Kenzo: for envirolink

14:55 Ruby Glitter: FYI, there are folks already doing that.

14:55 Ruby Glitter: yes, Commonwealth,.

14:56 In Kenzo: we focus on global outreach, millennium development goals, education and care for all.

14:56 In Kenzo: also TechSoup

14:56 Ana Herzog: i bought my own land but don't know how long i can keep it

14:56 In Kenzo: free NPO space

14:56 Drew Frobozz: I'm interested in doing that for political organizing, elections. Is Commonwealth doing that?

14:56 Ana Herzog: how can we find out about this opportunity

14:56 In Kenzo: talk to hayduke ibisu for commonwealth

14:56 In Kenzo: for techsoup's free land for nonprofits (office space)

14:56 In Kenzo: speak with glitteractica cookie

14:56 Ana Herzog: networking is so important

14:56 In Kenzo: for Better World Island, you can speak with Riversong Garden.

14:57 In Kenzo: techsoup is nonpolitical.

14:57 In Kenzo: commonwealth is progressive.

14:57 Ana Herzog: or we reinvent the wheel

14:57 In Kenzo: bwi is international.

14:57 In Kenzo: if that's helpful for you.

14:57 Drew Frobozz: Ana, I'm considering just doing that personally as my donation to the movement for the year. But only if it's no redundant

14:57 In Kenzo: we focus on interactive activism here

14:57 Ruby Glitter: I'm pretty sure Commonwealth would be into this kind of thing.

14:57 In Kenzo: like camp darfur, partnerships global and growing.

14:57 Ruby Glitter: Contact Hayduke Ebisu.

14:57 Drew Frobozz: I'd also love it if islands that are serving related but distinct purposes were located adjacent to one another, with land bridges, etc.

14:58 Ana Herzog: the great thing is we are without borders

14:58 In Kenzo: also usu ventura has been discussing this too, he's connected up there. we have considered moving this island next to them in alignment but wait for our scouts meeting to discuss and decide what's best here.

14:58 In Kenzo: yes, that's info archipelago drew

14:58 In Kenzo: info island centering, with commonwealth and new sims coming.

14:58 Ana Herzog: we should pool resources if compatible

14:58 In Kenzo: we have considered moving up there too.

14:58 Ana Herzog: some people think pink is too outlandish

14:58 In Kenzo: there's talk of campaign sim up there

14:58 In Kenzo: for 2008

14:59 In Kenzo: also educators and health ed sims there.

14:59 In Kenzo: libraries.

14:59 In Kenzo: so i'm not sure how they want to balance the political.

14:59 Drew Frobozz: campaign sim at info archipelago? cool!

14:59 Drew Frobozz: who is best to talk to?

14:59 Ana Herzog: and we will pinkslip all candidates that are moderate on war

14:59 In Kenzo: not sure what will happen with that, if it will go up there or elsewhere.

14:59 Drew Frobozz: Ana-- I'd want a place that was 100% ok being partisan progressive to exist

14:59 In Kenzo: i know there have been discussions, a few avatars working with candidates on plans for future builds.

14:59 Ruby Glitter: Lorelei Junot is Info Island.

14:59 Drew Frobozz: networking among those/us groups is key

15:00 In Kenzo: that's commonwealth drew

15:00 In Kenzo: all progressive, all the time

15:00 Drew Frobozz: great!

15:00 In Kenzo: here we stay very independent.

15:00 Ruby Glitter: Drew do you think there might be confict between peopel supportng different candidates?

15:00 Ruby Glitter: or different strategies?

15:00 Ana Herzog: absolutely --- is ther a monthly strategy session for all groups

15:00 In Kenzo: mostly canadians and euro here, not US

15:00 Ana Herzog: or a magazine

15:00 In Kenzo: although more US now, that's not really true...

15:00 Ana Herzog: or website for progressive SL

15:01 Drew Frobozz: we should have ALL that

15:01 Ruby Glitter: I have mentioned the idea of starting a weekly (?) progressive meetup in SL.

15:01 In Kenzo: your wiki here is a great start.

15:01 Drew Frobozz: website, island (hopefully it's Commonwealth already), etc.

15:01 In Kenzo: you have a growing group.

15:01 Ana Herzog: Go for it Ruby!

15:01 Ana Herzog: and the wiki is wonderful

15:01 In Kenzo: you should also see commonwealth's new VR room

15:01 In Kenzo: opens up the potential for SL

15:01 Drew Frobozz: yes I've been planning to propose that RootsCamp be a regular weekly session from now on

15:02 Ana Herzog: excellent

15:02 Ana Herzog: anyone publish within sl?

15:02 Drew Frobozz: and also a dedicated space that's a drop-in social center for progressives 24/7

15:02 Kianeira MacDiarmid: am i still here?

15:02 Kianeira MacDiarmid: client says (Not Responding)

15:02 Drew Frobozz: and also export of activity and sessions there automatically to a website for a broader audience to see what happens there

15:02 In Kenzo: we have a green living center for businesses in teh works too, please contact me if you have groups that would be interested in joining our commons.

15:02 In Kenzo: hello silver

15:02 Ruby Glitter: You are definitely still here, your hair is glowing in the dark. ;-)

15:03 Drew Frobozz: Kenzo, who are the best people to chat with at Commonwealth?

15:03 In Kenzo: Hayduke Ibisu

15:03 In Kenzo: he's a gem

15:03 Ruby Glitter: Ebisu.

15:03 Ana Herzog: This is all so wonderful!

15:03 In Kenzo: thank you ruby!

15:03 In Kenzo: sorry 'bout that

15:03 Ana Herzog: are any of the imagine peacers involved?

15:04 In Kenzo: oh and hey, send pics to slpics.com! snapzilla brings more people here to participate and is a very easy way to blog photos.

15:04 Drew Frobozz: great. thanks!

15:05 Ana Herzog: and the transcripts with all this in will be available when?

15:05 Ruby Glitter: usually about 24 hours....

15:06 Ruby Glitter: Drew has been doing them. Doing a great job. But he's also bust w/ RootsCampSF.

15:06 Ruby Glitter: also busY

15:06 Ruby Glitter: I can do it this time, if needed.

15:06 Ana Herzog: cool. much info here. MUCH!

15:07 Ruby Glitter: Tomorrow we have a machinima session at 3pm. nothing else on the schedule.

15:07 Ana Herzog: it will take a while to get it up as well as synthesize

15:07 Drew Frobozz: thank you Ana!

15:07 Ana Herzog: ty

15:07 Ruby Glitter: Monday has a bunch of great things.

15:07 Ruby Glitter: then we wrap it up Tuesday and talk about Prez.08.

15:07 Drew Frobozz: I'll get the report done late tonight

15:07 Drew Frobozz: ciao! :)

15:07 In Kenzo is Offline

15:07 Ana Herzog: ciao!

15:07 Ruby Glitter: Drew, so you need me to do the meeting summary this time?

15:08 Drew Frobozz: no I got it-- thanks.

15:08 Ruby Glitter: OK, great.

15:08 Ruby Glitter: I am going to work on these sitting things...

15:08 Ana Herzog: i'm building a peace hangout

15:09 Ana Herzog: lol you can teach me after you master it!

15:10 Ruby Glitter: heh.

15:10 Ruby Glitter: As In said, we learn as we go...

15:10 Kianeira MacDiarmid: what was the url again please?

15:10 Ruby Glitter: Thanks for coming everyone. and thanks to Ana for the awesome presentation.!

15:11 Ruby Glitter: rootscampSL.org